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11-18-2007, 12:29 PM
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What is the name of your state?
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11-18-2007, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by moondog23  What is the name of your state? VA
I am an Israeli citizen, the father of my unborn baby is American. We were never married and he is not exactly happy about the baby.
We do not plan on going to court since he acknowledges paternity and I don't want to ask for child support, and his name will be on the birth certificate.
I plan on leaving the country and moving back to Israel when baby will be about 4 months old. What do I need from the father in order to take baby out of the country? Should I expect any problems when it comes to taking my child, an American, out of the country?
Thank you for helping! | I will tell you honestly, that if dad decides that he doesn't want the baby to be leaving the country, that the baby will NOT be leaving the country. There can be exceptions to that, but they are fairly few and far between. Dad may seem to agree now, but after the baby is born, and he becomes attached to the baby, its VERY likely that he will change his mind.
If you want to go back to Israel, you need to do it BEFORE the baby is born.  |
11-18-2007, 01:32 PM
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11-18-2007, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by moondog23 i don't see this happening cause he is not even interested in knowing the child. the only reason he even knows what is going on with me and when i'll actually have the baby is cause he is helping with my medical expenses, and that is cause i am not asking him for child support. as far as he in concerned, he would not even know when baby is born if it was up to him... that's what's going on currently at leats...
and second, for that exact reason exactly it's important for me to have the baby here, cause the dad won't help me get amrican citizenship for the baby if it'll be born in israel, and i don't want to be dependent on him for that. he is way too unreliable for anything like that... | If you are so concerned about having American citizenship for the child, why do you want to run off right away. Perhaps you should stay and let your child enjoy the benefits of his citizenship, and not run off so the FATHER has no chance of seeing HIS child that you made together with him! 
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11-18-2007, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by moondog23 i don't see this happening cause he is not even interested in knowing the child. the only reason he even knows what is going on with me and when i'll actually have the baby is cause he is helping with my medical expenses, | He has no interest in HIS baby... but he's interested in helping you.. someone he's (presumably) not interested in either with your medical expenses? So, he's not interested in something he is legally responsible for, but he's IS interested in something he has no obligation for at all? Quote: |
and that is cause i am not asking him for child support.
| I could have SWORN that in one of your previous threads (on this same subject) you wanted to know how to establish child support from Israel... we got into a big discussion about the Hague convention... now you're not asking for support? Interesting. Quote: |
as far as he in concerned, he would not even know when baby is born if it was up to him... that's what's going on currently at leats...
| No, that's not what's currently going on. He's paying for your medical expenses Quote: |
and second, for that exact reason exactly it's important for me to have the baby here, cause the dad won't help me get amrican citizenship for the baby if it'll be born in israel, and i don't want to be dependent on him for that. he is way too unreliable for anything like that...
| Please don't call your child an "it." He's too unreliable to ensure American citizenship for his CHILD, however, he is reliable enough to help you with your medical expenses.
Glad to know manipulative, questionable motives and coyness come in all different nationalities....
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11-18-2007, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by moondog23 What is the name of your state? VA
The fathe of my child who is supposed to be born in May 2008 is from VA, and I am from Israel. I will be moving back to Israel before the baby is born, or right after the birth, with the baby.
I was wondering if I can still ask for child support even if I live out of the country, and if it matters if the baby was born here or there, and some details about the process in whole...
Thank you for helping! | So much for not asking for child support...
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11-18-2007, 01:47 PM
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11-18-2007, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CourtClerk So much for not asking for child support... | so much for that... i mean, to begin with i wasn't planning on asking for child support, but i was just wondering what happened if i did, and that was for some personal things that happened last week that made me re-think that issue |
11-18-2007, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by moondog23 does it make any sense? | Amazing...
A child (generally) has TWO parents. No matter how much you protest, that's not going to change.
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11-18-2007, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by moondog23 What is the name of your state? VA
I am an Israeli citizen, the father of my unborn baby is American. We were never married and he is not exactly happy about the baby.
We do not plan on going to court since he acknowledges paternity and I don't want to ask for child support, and his name will be on the birth certificate.
I plan on leaving the country and moving back to Israel when baby will be about 4 months old. What do I need from the father in order to take baby out of the country? Should I expect any problems when it comes to taking my child, an American, out of the country?
Thank you for helping! | I will tell you honestly, that if dad decides that he doesn't want the baby to be leaving the country, that the baby will NOT be leaving the country. There can be exceptions to that, but they are fairly few and far between. Dad may seem to agree now, but after the baby is born, and he becomes attached to the baby, its VERY likely that he will change his mind.
If you want to go back to Israel, you need to do it BEFORE the baby is born. |
11-18-2007, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LdiJ If you want to go back to Israel, you need to do it BEFORE the baby is born. | But...you repeat yourself 
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11-18-2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Zigner Amazing...
A child (generally) has TWO parents. No matter how much you protest, that's not going to change. | Awww Ziggy (and I mean that as a term of endearment, not as an insult) there are (unfortunately) women in this world who still see men as optional in parenting... unless they need some $$$. Those people are bound to do their children more harm than good.
I mean, she hasn't even HAD the child yet... the "father" has no bond to this child... how could he? I guess I could bond with that lottery check I'm bound to win sometime soon, but it's better that I see it first. (you get it?) 
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11-18-2007, 02:00 PM
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11-18-2007, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CourtClerk I guess I could bond with that lottery check I'm bound to win sometime soon, but it's better that I see it first. (you get it?) | You should have more faith.
Write those checks, but put a memo on stating: Do not cash until you see me on the news!
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11-18-2007, 02:08 PM
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| | | Call it what you want but...
a man that truly doesn't care about the baby that you are carrying for him wouldn't care LESS if you went into 5 years of debt or a lifetime of debt caring for such child.
Read the rest of the threads in the child support forums. There are 2094730583094857129347329047 examples of just that. There are women on here who are living on less than paycheck to paycheck and have ex's that couldn't give a rats ass about whether they are broke or going broke with or without their children. He couldn't care less about your medical care and that of some child he doesn't even know (and is not legally) is his.
You play in emotion. I play in reality.
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