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11-22-2006, 04:37 PM
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Ok, the babydaddy was informed he would not be returning to 'our' home about 10 months ago. The lease is now in my name only.
I moved most of his crap out to the barn behind the house - he was aware of this. He's chosen not to come and pick it up or contact the landlord to make arrangements to pay storage on it. I have no way of contacting the babydaddy.
I need to get the rest of his crap (family photos, a computer, misc crap from his LE career - gun belt, vest, badges, tactical gear, etc) out of the house, and I also need to get his stuff 'gone' from the barn as the landlord needs to use it for other things.
My questions:
1) What, if any, is my obligation to attempt to contact him?
2) Is it possible to sell any of the cop gear, or is there a restriction on that?
3) Do I have the right to sell stuff he's made no attempt to get back?
4) If I just pile up all of his clothes and furniture in the pasture and have a bonfire, is that within my rights?
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11-22-2006, 04:52 PM
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| | | Although I love the bonfire idea, nothing like toasting marshmallows over an ex's burning briefs, it is probably not a good idea.
As for selling his stuff, that is also kind of touchy since then it looks like you got rid of his crap for profit.
As for the cop stuff, I think I would return that to the cop shop.
Does he have any relatives? could you box up the junk and leave it at their house?? |
11-22-2006, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CJane  What is the name of your state? MO
Ok, the babydaddy was informed he would not be returning to 'our' home about 10 months ago. The lease is now in my name only.
I moved most of his crap out to the barn behind the house - he was aware of this. He's chosen not to come and pick it up or contact the landlord to make arrangements to pay storage on it. I have no way of contacting the babydaddy.
I need to get the rest of his crap (family photos, a computer, misc crap from his LE career - gun belt, vest, badges, tactical gear, etc) out of the house, and I also need to get his stuff 'gone' from the barn as the landlord needs to use it for other things.
My questions:
1) What, if any, is my obligation to attempt to contact him?
2) Is it possible to sell any of the cop gear, or is there a restriction on that?
3) Do I have the right to sell stuff he's made no attempt to get back?
4) If I just pile up all of his clothes and furniture in the pasture and have a bonfire, is that within my rights? | Cjane you are a landlord. You have a responsibility here. You must contact him preferably by CRRR and give him a reasonable amount of time (30 to 60 days) to come get his stuff. YOu have no right to have a bonfire. You can't sell his stuff. You need to be responsible and tell him to come get it.
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11-23-2006, 04:23 PM
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| | | It's time to write a book about " babydaddy " . Gesh get over it , move , shuffle your butt , eat a TURKEY .
Whatever , babydaddy my ass.
Happy TG ..
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11-24-2006, 10:51 AM
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| | | Even if you send to him a registered letter to his last known address, and a copy also sent registered to his folks, should the letters come back you will have proof of having attempted to contact him. ( dont open those letters keep intact to show a court) After you search your state govt web page for abandoned property statutes and send notice telling him he has what ever time they list as the amount of time to pick up his things` Follow your states law and if the things become abandoned according to your states laws then and only then will you be free to dispose of them. |
11-24-2006, 12:15 PM
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11-27-2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohiogal Cjane you are a landlord. You have a responsibility here. You must contact him preferably by CRRR and give him a reasonable amount of time (30 to 60 days) to come get his stuff. YOu have no right to have a bonfire. You can't sell his stuff. You need to be responsible and tell him to come get it. | How am I a landlord? I moved in with him - he was renting/had a lease. He moved out. I now have a lease w/the landlord.
The only address I have for him is his last known address - which also happens to be MY address. Pretty sure he's not getting mail there. His attorney has withdrawn, or I'd send a CRR to him.
How do you suggest I contact him?
SJ ~ Is this what applies to me? [url]http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C400-499/4470000080.HTM[/url]
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11-27-2006, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CJane How am I a landlord? I moved in with him - he was renting/had a lease. He moved out. I now have a lease w/the landlord.
The only address I have for him is his last known address - which also happens to be MY address. Pretty sure he's not getting mail there. His attorney has withdrawn, or I'd send a CRR to him.
How do you suggest I contact him?
SJ ~ Is this what applies to me? [url]http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C400-499/4470000080.HTM[/url] | Does he have any family in the area? Could you box up the stuff and drop it off there?
Or in the alternative could you contact his family members and get them scared that you were going to do a "bonfire" of his stuff unless someone gets it gone ASAP...even if you weren't really going to do that?
Obviously you either have to remove it from the barn yourself, or convince someone to get it, or drop it off somewhere yourself, or take it back into your home. Its too risky for you to dispose of it without being able to legally give him notice to remove it.  |
11-28-2006, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CJane How am I a landlord? I moved in with him - he was renting/had a lease. He moved out. I now have a lease w/the landlord.
The only address I have for him is his last known address - which also happens to be MY address. Pretty sure he's not getting mail there. His attorney has withdrawn, or I'd send a CRR to him.
How do you suggest I contact him?
SJ ~ Is this what applies to me? [url]http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C400-499/4470000080.HTM[/url] | Does YOUR landlord (his FORMER landlord) have any kind of a "back up plan" if you DON"T move the items. Since bd's name was originally on the lease, the property owner may be the one responsible for dealing with the matter. |
11-28-2006, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ceara19 Does YOUR landlord (his FORMER landlord) have any kind of a "back up plan" if you DON"T move the items. Since bd's name was originally on the lease, the property owner may be the one responsible for dealing with the matter. | If it IS the landlord's responsibility, then I'll stop worrying about it and just finish getting my stuff out of the barn... his back up plan is to either burn it or dump it at the landfill.
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11-28-2006, 10:11 AM
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| | | Send the notice to his last known address if that is his former attorney or employer, that is not your fault, otherwise you could be responsible since you moved the items out into the barn no matter what the landlord threatens to do with them. Put the items in storage and send him the key. You know he has other children, so you have other ways to notice him according to the law.
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11-28-2006, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rmet4nzkx You know he has other children, so you have other ways to notice him according to the law. | Huh? What do his other children have to do with other ways to notify him? He doesn't spend any time with them, and I have no idea how to contact the mothers.
I DO know where his father is, since he's the sheriff of a neighboring county... should I send a CRR to BD c/o his father?
I'm (hopefully) purchasing a home in the near future and don't really want to move his crap with me.
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11-28-2006, 10:29 AM
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| | | Then notice, his father and his attorney, you should get some response from one of them.
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11-28-2006, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rmet4nzkx Then notice, his father and his attorney, you should get some response from one of them. | Thank you.
30 days is reasonable, yes?
I guess I'm planning on basically saying "BD's belongings have been in storage in Landlord's barn, per BD's request since February 2005. All items must be removed before (30 days from mailing) or they will be disposed of."
Will that suffice?
I was planning to just drop off the box of personal stuff (awards, photos, etc) when we went to court, but since he dismissed his motions, that's not gonna happen.
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11-28-2006, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CJane Thank you.
30 days is reasonable, yes?
I guess I'm planning on basically saying "BD's belongings have been in storage in Landlord's barn, per BD's request since February 2005. All items must be removed before (30 days from mailing) or they will be disposed of."
Will that suffice?
I was planning to just drop off the box of personal stuff (awards, photos, etc) when we went to court, but since he dismissed his motions, that's not gonna happen. | If that is all it is, his father should be able to get it, just make sure he doesn't have claims to anything else or he can sue you in small claims court, do you have an inventory? If not, make one and take pictures to document. Did you checkout the requirements for abandoned personal property and your court orders? 30 days notice may not be sufficient, have you considered taking him to small claims court for your storage costs since he dismissed his motions?
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