Please Help Me, Anyone Advice, My Soulmate, Insane Mother, Alienation Of Affections

[Lordofsuperposi]

What is the name of your state? Pennsylvania

Please, I am truly in need of help. If anyone can provide any, I would appreciate it immensely. I'm not sure what else to do. My question is regarding a law that I understand is still on the books in Pennsylvania when the defendant is a parent of the spouse: alienation of affections, and that I understand can fall under the aegis of EITHER “personal injury” or "family law", claims. I was involved in a 5-year relationship and was in the process of making arrangements to marry my girlfriend, the love of my life. Her deranged, malicious mother decided that we should not see each other when she heard that we wanted to marry. She convinced my girlfriend to discontinue all contact with me and her mother has not allowed me to speak to her since September 2005. In the past she has forced my girlfriend to break up with me, but I was still able to speak to her and so we always mended our relationship (much to her mother's dismay). I live in Florida and she lives in Pennsylvania, I was planning to move to Pennsylvania to be with her. We met in high school when she was living with her aunt. At that time she was not allowed speak to her mother while at school because of allegations of abuse by the mother. (In fact the mother gave that information to us). My soulmate has cerebral palsy and some minor learning disabilities, but her mother has made her feel that she is severely disabled. I have already tried virtually everything else imaginable to try to get through to her, now I would like to sue for the right to be able to contact and, hopefully, ultimately reestablish a relationship with, my ex-girlfriend. However, as I realize this is a very esoteric and archaic statute, I have not had much luck finding an attorney to try the case. My parents have expressed their willingness to pay my legal fees, sparing no expense, but most attorneys I've spoken with say they simply have no experience with cases of this type. What does anyone reccomend?

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In case you are interested, here is our full story.

My name is Josh, and the love of my life's name is Jen. We met at school, 5 years ago. 5 YEARS! We were 13 and 14 then, we're 18 and 19 now. In teenage dating terms, that's the equivalent of a 50-year marriage. It was love at first sight. She was the only girl at the school (it was a private school), I knew I was going to be excited to have a girl come, I hoped, maybe, she'd be cute and maybe, maybe if I was really lucky, I would get her to go out with me. I never expected to find my other half, literally, the other half of me! I found that and more, my soulmate, my best friend, my lover, my girlfriend, my fiancee, my closest confidante, my therapist, my world, my EVERYTHING! At that school, they tried not to let us be together, she was living with her crazy aunt (her whole family is crazy and evil) who told her "never to see that boy", so we sat in class all day and wrote love notes to eachother, just back and forth, everyday. I had never met anyone like that, we just loved eachother so much. We went in the bathroom and fooled around, and were lucky enough not to to get caught. We talked on the phone everyday after school, too, but almost always managed to hang up before her aunt got back. A year went by like this, then another. We swore we'd never part, no matter what, that we would get married. We planned everything. We were living in Florida (in the United States, for my international readers), but her family, who she lived with before she came to live here, were in Pennsylvania. They demanded that she come back, so we were separated. We weren't sure how we would go on, weren't sure if we would ever see eachother again. We said our tearful goodbye, kissed, and that long last hug.

But then, she got there and....she called me. The phone. We got unlimited long distance plans, both parts of us, and spent 8 hours a day on the phone! We became even closer then, grew together even more. We shared every bit of our soul, became truly one and the same. We talked about every single thing we ever thought of, comforted eachother, whispered our love to eachother- I'm not ashamed to say had phone sex: she is the only girl I've ever even kissed, or eaten out, or....anything. We started being able to have visits. We flew or drove back and forth. We spent time together, we cuddled, we took walks in the moonlight. I'm not making any of this up, we really did all this.

But then, the family insanity started again. Slowly but surely, her mother got crazy too. She seemed reasonable at first but over time, she started trying to ruin our life together. Unlike at the aunt's, this was more than she could take. She graduated from school, she was there ALL THE TIME. They started trying to brainwash her to break up with me. At first, she resisted like before, I was everything to her, just as she was to me. But over time, the constant pressure they placed upon her became more than she could bear. I went to a summer college program, and that was when she first said to me she was breaking up with me. I cried, I begged, I pleaded. I told her I couldn't live without her, that I would kill myself- walk out in front of an oncoming train if she left me. After a month, she finally came back. She said she was SOOOO sorry, that how could she ever do that to her little baby boy, her Joshy-Bear, her love. She apologized, she cried, she cooed. Then, a few months later, giving in to their pressure, she did it again. I got her back again. She did it again. Each time I grew more desperate. I hawked my stuff to get bus fares, and hop on Greyhound in the middle of night (so that my parents, also evil) couldn't stop me. Her parents said I was crazy, so they eventually brainwashed her into believing I was, and said I had to go into a mental institution for her to come back with me, and I did. For a week, which is like the minimum before they can release you, and I barely got out. The place was a living hell, I still have nightmares about it.

I tried to WALK there when I couldn't get enough. I walked for miles along 95 before I was finally picked up. I would have walked all the way there if I had the chance. 1200 miles. About 600 km. When I did get there one of the times, her crazy stepfather, who is a cop, had me rid out of town by the police. I spent nights out in the cold and rain and wind and snow on a bench outside her development! I was lucky to survive that...finally, I got her back what I thought was for good! She spent about a month at my house, we had a wonderful life together again just like we always used to....in fact, that was the most wonderful time we had together. We finally made love for the first time, both losing our virginity. But then, they made her go back to Pennsylvania again, even though we were trying to get it set up then so we could get an apartment, get married just like we always wanted, go to college- do everything we had always planned!

Then, she got brainwashed. Again. I couldn't believe it was really happening. Again. After another month of trying to get her back, she finally, this time, said to me that she doesn't love me anymore, that she doesn't care about me anymore. After everything we've been through, everything we've shared- we're the same person! We can never really be "apart". Her parents are evil and they're torturing us, but....what can we do about it? There has to be something we can do...well, you gotta do something! Or....tell me something to do....or someone has to do something! This can't be happening....no, NO, I don't accept this, no, I can't live if......I can't live if she doesn't.....love**************.me...??

I don't accept that, I don't believe it.....and I never will. I know that her evil damn mother just brainwashed her into this, please, I have to get my sweet, loving little angel back. I know she's still in there, I know that, whatever her mother fills her head with, that's still who my beloved is, deep down in the core of her heart and her soul, I just have to find some way to get back through to my precious Jenny-Bunny. Can anyone help me?

[Lordofsuperposi]

I just wanted to add, that what I wanted to sue for was the right to have contact with her, not money. I had only seen cases where monetray damages were awarded- I'm not interested in money. Jen is literally my ENTIRE life; I would gladly pay a trillion trillion dollars for the chance to spend my life with her, and money is really only useful to me insofar as it can get me to be able to be with her or buy her things she wants- she's all I've ever truly cared about. It was my understanding that I could sue for the right to have contact with her instead of money, because I really don't want money, I just want her, I just wanted to make sure that was correct.

[justalayman]

Did anybody else go into sugar shock!!!

You might want to think about the statement "her whole family is crazy" and think she is the only one to escape this affliction.

By the way...I wouldn't buy this book even if you did get it published.

Originally Posted by justalayman

Did anybody else go into sugar shock!!!

You might want to think about the statement "her whole family is crazy" and think she is the only one to escape this affliction.

By the way...I wouldn't buy this book even if you did get it published.

I don't know about sugar shock, but I think MY eyes are permanently crossed now!

[stealth2]

Dude. The chick told you to get lost. Time to move on.

[Happy Trails]

Originally Posted by Lordofsuperposi

What is the name of your state? Pennsylvania

Please, I am truly in need of help. If anyone can provide any, I would appreciate it immensely. I'm not sure what else to do. My question is regarding a law that I understand is still on the books in Pennsylvania when the defendant is a parent of the spouse: alienation of affections, and that I understand can fall under the aegis of EITHER “personal injury” or "family law", claims. I was involved in a 5-year relationship and was in the process of making arrangements to marry my girlfriend, the love of my life. Her deranged, malicious mother decided that we should not see each other when she heard that we wanted to marry. She convinced my girlfriend to discontinue all contact with me and her mother has not allowed me to speak to her since September 2005. In the past she has forced my girlfriend to break up with me, but I was still able to speak to her and so we always mended our relationship (much to her mother's dismay). I live in Florida and she lives in Pennsylvania, I was planning to move to Pennsylvania to be with her. We met in high school when she was living with her aunt. At that time she was not allowed speak to her mother while at school because of allegations of abuse by the mother. (In fact the mother gave that information to us). My soulmate has cerebral palsy and some minor learning disabilities, but her mother has made her feel that she is severely disabled. I have already tried virtually everything else imaginable to try to get through to her, now I would like to sue for the right to be able to contact and, hopefully, ultimately reestablish a relationship with, my ex-girlfriend. However, as I realize this is a very esoteric and archaic statute, I have not had much luck finding an attorney to try the case. My parents have expressed their willingness to pay my legal fees, sparing no expense, but most attorneys I've spoken with say they simply have no experience with cases of this type. What does anyone reccomend?

****************************************************************

In case you are interested, here is our full story.

My name is Josh, and the love of my life's name is Jen. We met at school, 5 years ago. 5 YEARS! We were 13 and 14 then, we're 18 and 19 now. In teenage dating terms, that's the equivalent of a 50-year marriage. It was love at first sight. She was the only girl at the school (it was a private school), I knew I was going to be excited to have a girl come, I hoped, maybe, she'd be cute and maybe, maybe if I was really lucky, I would get her to go out with me. I never expected to find my other half, literally, the other half of me! I found that and more, my soulmate, my best friend, my lover, my girlfriend, my fiancee, my closest confidante, my therapist, my world, my EVERYTHING! At that school, they tried not to let us be together, she was living with her crazy aunt (her whole family is crazy and evil) who told her "never to see that boy", so we sat in class all day and wrote love notes to eachother, just back and forth, everyday. I had never met anyone like that, we just loved eachother so much. We went in the bathroom and fooled around, and were lucky enough not to to get caught. We talked on the phone everyday after school, too, but almost always managed to hang up before her aunt got back. A year went by like this, then another. We swore we'd never part, no matter what, that we would get married. We planned everything. We were living in Florida (in the United States, for my international readers), but her family, who she lived with before she came to live here, were in Pennsylvania. They demanded that she come back, so we were separated. We weren't sure how we would go on, weren't sure if we would ever see eachother again. We said our tearful goodbye, kissed, and that long last hug.

But then, she got there and....she called me. The phone. We got unlimited long distance plans, both parts of us, and spent 8 hours a day on the phone! We became even closer then, grew together even more. We shared every bit of our soul, became truly one and the same. We talked about every single thing we ever thought of, comforted eachother, whispered our love to eachother- I'm not ashamed to say had phone sex: she is the only girl I've ever even kissed, or eaten out, or....anything. We started being able to have visits. We flew or drove back and forth. We spent time together, we cuddled, we took walks in the moonlight. I'm not making any of this up, we really did all this.

But then, the family insanity started again. Slowly but surely, her mother got crazy too. She seemed reasonable at first but over time, she started trying to ruin our life together. Unlike at the aunt's, this was more than she could take. She graduated from school, she was there ALL THE TIME. They started trying to brainwash her to break up with me. At first, she resisted like before, I was everything to her, just as she was to me. But over time, the constant pressure they placed upon her became more than she could bear. I went to a summer college program, and that was when she first said to me she was breaking up with me. I cried, I begged, I pleaded. I told her I couldn't live without her, that I would kill myself- walk out in front of an oncoming train if she left me. After a month, she finally came back. She said she was SOOOO sorry, that how could she ever do that to her little baby boy, her Joshy-Bear, her love. She apologized, she cried, she cooed. Then, a few months later, giving in to their pressure, she did it again. I got her back again. She did it again. Each time I grew more desperate. I hawked my stuff to get bus fares, and hop on Greyhound in the middle of night (so that my parents, also evil) couldn't stop me. Her parents said I was crazy, so they eventually brainwashed her into believing I was, and said I had to go into a mental institution for her to come back with me, and I did. For a week, which is like the minimum before they can release you, and I barely got out. The place was a living hell, I still have nightmares about it.

I tried to WALK there when I couldn't get enough. I walked for miles along 95 before I was finally picked up. I would have walked all the way there if I had the chance. 1200 miles. About 600 km. When I did get there one of the times, her crazy stepfather, who is a cop, had me rid out of town by the police. I spent nights out in the cold and rain and wind and snow on a bench outside her development! I was lucky to survive that...finally, I got her back what I thought was for good! She spent about a month at my house, we had a wonderful life together again just like we always used to....in fact, that was the most wonderful time we had together. We finally made love for the first time, both losing our virginity. But then, they made her go back to Pennsylvania again, even though we were trying to get it set up then so we could get an apartment, get married just like we always wanted, go to college- do everything we had always planned!

Then, she got brainwashed. Again. I couldn't believe it was really happening. Again. After another month of trying to get her back, she finally, this time, said to me that she doesn't love me anymore, that she doesn't care about me anymore. After everything we've been through, everything we've shared- we're the same person! We can never really be "apart". Her parents are evil and they're torturing us, but....what can we do about it? There has to be something we can do...well, you gotta do something! Or....tell me something to do....or someone has to do something! This can't be happening....no, NO, I don't accept this, no, I can't live if......I can't live if she doesn't.....love**************.me...??

I don't accept that, I don't believe it.....and I never will. I know that her evil damn mother just brainwashed her into this, please, I have to get my sweet, loving little angel back. I know she's still in there, I know that, whatever her mother fills her head with, that's still who my beloved is, deep down in the core of her heart and her soul, I just have to find some way to get back through to my precious Jenny-Bunny. Can anyone help me?

Pennsylvania statutorially abolished "alienation of affection".

[Lordofsuperposi]

Umm....what the hell kind of responses are those? I thought this was a serious legal advice forum. What the hell are you even talking about? Yes she is the only one in her family who's not crazy; or if she is, HER craziness I love, her craziness doesn't bother me, the others', THAT is preventing me from being with her. What the hell do you even mean your eyes are crossed? Whatever that's suppose to symbolize, it's clearly lost on me. Seriously. I need help.

[stealth2]

Seriously, son - you have no rights. If she doesn't want to talk to you, she doesn't have to. You're looking at a restraining order if you continue harrassing her. Get over it, and move on.

[Lordofsuperposi]

Originally Posted by Happy Trails

Pennsylvania statutorially abolished "alienation of affection".

Check the books:
§ 1901. Actions for alienation of affections abolished.


(a) General rule.--All civil causes of action for alienation of affections of husband or wife are abolished.


(b) Exception.--Subsection (a) does not apply to cases where the defendant is a parent, brother or sister or a person formerly in loco parentis to the spouse of plaintiff.

[Lordofsuperposi]

Alright, thank you. I can see no-one is going to help me, just give me this same crap I get from everyone, everywhere. She LOVES me, her mother is FORCING her to not be with me. It's of no concern. If you don't want to help me, don't help me. I won't trouble you any further. I'm disaapointed in this site, when I happened upon it I expected something more reasonable than the common reactionalism.

Originally Posted by Lordofsuperposi

Umm....what the hell kind of responses are those? I thought this was a serious legal advice forum. What the hell are you even talking about? Yes she is the only one in her family who's not crazy; or if she is, HER craziness I love, her craziness doesn't bother me, the others', THAT is preventing me from being with her. What the hell do you even mean your eyes are crossed. Whatever that's suppose to symbolize, it's clearly lost on me. Seriously. I need help.

Ok Ok sorry!

stealth2 answered your question.

As to your question for me specifically:

What the hell do you even mean your eyes are crossed.

Here this might help:
cross-eyed >adjective having one or both eyes turned inwards towards the nose, either temporarily or as a permanent condition

[Lordofsuperposi]

Ok. Nevermind. I can see no-one's interested in being of any intelligible (or intelligent!) help. Thank you for your time.

Originally Posted by Lordofsuperposi

Ok. Nevermind. I can see no-one's interested in being of any material help. Thank you for your time.

Are these posts not showing up on your computer monitor?

You were given the correct answer? Re-read this thread, which you started, and start from the beginning.

It's kind of like a "Where's Waldo" book. The correct answer is here just look for it!

[Happy Trails]

Originally Posted by Lordofsuperposi

Umm....what the hell kind of responses are those? I thought this was a serious legal advice forum. What the hell are you even talking about? Yes she is the only one in her family who's not crazy; or if she is, HER craziness I love, her craziness doesn't bother me, the others', THAT is preventing me from being with her. What the hell do you even mean your eyes are crossed. Whatever that's suppose to symbolize, it's clearly lost on me. Seriously. I need help.

Josh, you said in your own post she doesn't want to be with you anymore or love you anymore. (I know you can't believe it.)

Neither of you have had much of a chance to experience adulthood. It is way different then being a dependent teenager. You know for yourself, that the relationship you had was rare to have lasted as long as it did.

Keep acting erratically and you will push her further away from you and most likely end up getting a restaining order against you. Take this time to grow as a person, continue your education and meet other people and let her do the same.

As Stealth said, you have no legal right to see her.

[Veronica1228]

Originally Posted by Lordofsuperposi

Alright, thank you. I can see no-one is going to help me, just give me this same crap I get from everyone, everywhere. She LOVES me, her mother is FORCING her to not be with me. It's of no concern. If you don't want to help me, don't help me. I won't trouble you any further. I'm disaapointed in this site, when I happened upon it I expected something more reasonable than the common reactionalism.

Unless your ex's mother is holding a gun to her head and holding her hostage so that she can't contact you, you have no case. Just because you are still in love with your ex it doesn't mean that she has to still love you.

I strongly recommend that you see a therapist or some get some kind of group therapy to get over this break up. I'm not kidding here. You are obsessing over this girl and it's going to get you into deep legal trouble if you don't get help.