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Old 06-07-2006, 07:55 PM
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OHIO.

A friend of mine who is a male, and 26, and a FTM Transexual (preop) who is 16 are dating, as a gay couple. The 16 year old's father found out about the relationship and is telling them to end it entirely. Nothing sexual or even physical has happened yet. The father is threatening legal action if the 26 year old does anything with, what he considers, his boyfriend.

If the 26 year old and the 16 year old hang out, is there any legal recourse the father could take?

If the 26 year old and the 16 year old have sex, is there any legal recourse the father could take?

(I know the temptation will be great, but I am hoping to gain some actual legal responses, please no religious right/wrong arguments)

thank you
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:36 PM
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OHIO.

A friend of mine who is a male, and 26, and a FTM Transexual (preop) who is 16 are dating, as a gay couple. The 16 year old's father found out about the relationship and is telling them to end it entirely. Nothing sexual or even physical has happened yet. The father is threatening legal action if the 26 year old does anything with, what he considers, his boyfriend.

If the 26 year old and the 16 year old hang out, is there any legal recourse the father could take?

If the 26 year old and the 16 year old have sex, is there any legal recourse the father could take?

(I know the temptation will be great, but I am hoping to gain some actual legal responses, please no religious right/wrong arguments)

thank you
A 16 year old is having a sex change????????
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:48 PM
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A 16 year old is having a sex change????????
thanks for the legal advice there. preop means that it hasn't happened yet...that's all.
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OHIO.

A friend of mine who is a male, and 26, and a FTM Transexual (preop) who is 16 are dating, as a gay couple. The 16 year old's father found out about the relationship and is telling them to end it entirely. Nothing sexual or even physical has happened yet. The father is threatening legal action if the 26 year old does anything with, what he considers, his boyfriend.

If the 26 year old and the 16 year old hang out, is there any legal recourse the father could take?

If the 26 year old and the 16 year old have sex, is there any legal recourse the father could take?

(I know the temptation will be great, but I am hoping to gain some actual legal responses, please no religious right/wrong arguments)

thank you

How do they know each other -- is he in a position of authority (religious officiary, doctor, teacher, counselor) over her?

Then there is this:
2919.24. Contributing to unruliness or delinquency of a child.






(A) No person, including a parent, guardian, or other custodian of a child, shall do any of the following:

(1) Aid, abet, induce, cause, encourage, or contribute to a child or a ward of the juvenile court becoming an unruly child, as defined in section 2151.022 of the Revised Code, or a delinquent child, as defined in section 2152.02 of the Revised Code;

(2) Act in a way tending to cause a child or a ward of the juvenile court to become an unruly child, as defined in section 2151.022 of the Revised Code, or a delinquent child, as defined in section 2152.02 of the Revised Code;

(3) If the person is the parent, guardian, or custodian of a child who has the duties under Chapters 2152. and 2950. of the Revised Code to register, register a new residence address, and periodically verify a residence address, and, if applicable, to send a notice of intent to reside, and if the child is not emancipated, as defined in section 2919.121 of the Revised Code, fail to ensure that the child complies with those duties under Chapters 2152. and 2950. of the Revised Code.


(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of contributing to the unruliness or delinquency of a child, a misdemeanor of the first degree. Each day of violation of this section is a separate offense.


So dad could get a restraining order or have boyfriend charged with contributing.
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:37 PM
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thanks for the legal advice there. preop means that it hasn't happened yet...that's all.
You, not me, came on the internet to ask if you can have sex with your underage bf. If you can't get over a simple question about what is happening to the child, then you should be asking a lawyer in PRIVATE.

Good luck to you and your human playdoll.
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They know each other via mutual friends (I'm actually one of the friends). He is not in a position of authority.

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How do they know each other -- is he in a position of authority (religious officiary, doctor, teacher, counselor) over her?

Then there is this:
2919.24. Contributing to unruliness or delinquency of a child.






(A) No person, including a parent, guardian, or other custodian of a child, shall do any of the following:

(1) Aid, abet, induce, cause, encourage, or contribute to a child or a ward of the juvenile court becoming an unruly child, as defined in section 2151.022 of the Revised Code, or a delinquent child, as defined in section 2152.02 of the Revised Code;

(2) Act in a way tending to cause a child or a ward of the juvenile court to become an unruly child, as defined in section 2151.022 of the Revised Code, or a delinquent child, as defined in section 2152.02 of the Revised Code;

(3) If the person is the parent, guardian, or custodian of a child who has the duties under Chapters 2152. and 2950. of the Revised Code to register, register a new residence address, and periodically verify a residence address, and, if applicable, to send a notice of intent to reside, and if the child is not emancipated, as defined in section 2919.121 of the Revised Code, fail to ensure that the child complies with those duties under Chapters 2152. and 2950. of the Revised Code.


(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of contributing to the unruliness or delinquency of a child, a misdemeanor of the first degree. Each day of violation of this section is a separate offense.


So dad could get a restraining order or have boyfriend charged with contributing.
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I asked because my friend asked me and I had no answer. I figured it best to get legal advice as I couldn't answer his question through internet searches. Your question lent nothing to the discussion and was inflammatory in nature. Be helpful or shut up.

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You, not me, came on the internet to ask if you can have sex with your underage bf. If you can't get over a simple question about what is happening to the child, then you should be asking a lawyer in PRIVATE.

Good luck to you and your human playdoll.
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:29 PM
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Be helpful or shut up.
Drop the attitude or get out of here.
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I had your complete legal answer...but since you wanna be an ass....Find it yourself!
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OHIO.

A friend of mine who is a male, and 26, and a FTM Transexual (preop) who is 16 are dating, as a gay couple. The 16 year old's father found out about the relationship and is telling them to end it entirely. Nothing sexual or even physical has happened yet. The father is threatening legal action if the 26 year old does anything with, what he considers, his boyfriend.

If the 26 year old and the 16 year old hang out, is there any legal recourse the father could take?

If the 26 year old and the 16 year old have sex, is there any legal recourse the father could take?

(I know the temptation will be great, but I am hoping to gain some actual legal responses, please no religious right/wrong arguments)

thank you
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Umm...AHA was being a dick to begin with and that's why I said that. The quote was in no way a reference to you, so why would you take it personally?

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I had your complete legal answer...but since you wanna be an ass....Find it yourself!
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Umm...AHA was being a dick to begin with and that's why I said that. The quote was in no way a reference to you, so why would you take it personally?
Because there is a certain respect between those who post here.

If someone (such as yourself) insults or takes an attitude with someone who has repeatedly given great advice and respect to people asking for advice who have shown more respect than you to others...Then WE who know the answers can either choose to or not to give the answer that the poster (that would be you in this case) needs.

So you can apologize for being an ass...and I will be more than willing to help you...

Or you can go elsewhere.
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wow...he respond with an office topic statement like. Not to mention rude and inflammatory with the "????????"'s

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A 16 year old is having a sex change????????
And you guys get all high and mighty with your advice. Good to see that you're protecting someone who would do that. And that you can't understand in the least how sensitive of a subject this is with him and how I didn't even want to mention it in the first place, but thought that it would be disrespectful towards him to do otherwise. AND if this person has given such great advice in the past, and is someone with such a great grasp on the universe, maybe they would be more understanding of this situation...or at the very least understand that no 16 year old is going to have said surgery, not without several years of counseling...but maybe said person is not all that smart afterwards.

If you want to help, help. If you want to get irrationally offended and withhold advice, then this isn't much of a legal help forum. And not in the least bit sensitive to people's feelings who may come on here for advice.
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:49 AM
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wow...he respond with an office topic statement like. Not to mention rude and inflammatory with the "????????"'s



And you guys get all high and mighty with your advice. Good to see that you're protecting someone who would do that. And that you can't understand in the least how sensitive of a subject this is with him and how I didn't even want to mention it in the first place, but thought that it would be disrespectful towards him to do otherwise. AND if this person has given such great advice in the past, and is someone with such a great grasp on the universe, maybe they would be more understanding of this situation...or at the very least understand that no 16 year old is going to have said surgery, not without several years of counseling...but maybe said person is not all that smart afterwards.

If you want to help, help. If you want to get irrationally offended and withhold advice, then this isn't much of a legal help forum. And not in the least bit sensitive to people's feelings who may come on here for advice.
CAGUY -- all of us are a bit incredulous about the remark that a 16 year old is FTM pre-surgical transsexual. NOT because we are insensitive but because that is a HUGE decision for anyone to make let alone a teenager who legally can't make any decisions. By stating pre-surgical that implies that surgery is definitely in the future and seems to imply that it may be scheduled or in the process. Which is a shocking thing.
You got your answer. Dad can get a restraining order and he can get in trouble in Ohio for contributing.As for sex tell the 26 year old that it puts him in the realm of a pedophile. This child is still a child with many issues that need dealt with. Throwing sex with an adult 10 years her senior on top of it it is NOT healthy nor a "loving" thing to do. If he loves her he needs to back off.
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wow...he respond with an office topic statement like. Not to mention rude and inflammatory with the "????????"'s



And you guys get all high and mighty with your advice. Good to see that you're protecting someone who would do that. And that you can't understand in the least how sensitive of a subject this is with him and how I didn't even want to mention it in the first place, but thought that it would be disrespectful towards him to do otherwise. AND if this person has given such great advice in the past, and is someone with such a great grasp on the universe, maybe they would be more understanding of this situation...or at the very least understand that no 16 year old is going to have said surgery, not without several years of counseling...but maybe said person is not all that smart afterwards.

If you want to help, help. If you want to get irrationally offended and withhold advice, then this isn't much of a legal help forum. And not in the least bit sensitive to people's feelings who may come on here for advice.

First off, I'M NOT A HE!!!!
Second, I asked a simple question that you blew waaaaaaaaay out of proportion. NOW LET IT REST!
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