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Old 10-31-2003, 10:42 AM
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Unmarried Couple


Oregon, My partner and I are living together, but we are not married. We are thinking about not living together anymore. How is property and debit divided?
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Old 10-31-2003, 10:44 AM
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Re: Unmarried Couple


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Oregon, My partner and I are living together, but we are not married. We are thinking about not living together anymore. How is property and debit divided?
**A: how would you want it divided? It meaning joint and common property?
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Old 10-31-2003, 11:24 AM
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"How is property and debit divided?"
Property and debt that is clearly yours, remains yours.
Property and debt that is clearly his, remains his.
Any OTHER property or debt is subject to negotiation as to ownership and possession.
Once the 'negoiations' are finalized, put it in writing and all parties sign and date.

Also, any 'negotiated debt obligation' that you do is NOT binding on the creditor, who can still pursue recovery against all parties to the debt.
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Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!
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Old 10-31-2003, 11:37 AM
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Re: Re: Unmarried Couple


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**A: how would you want it divided? It meaning joint and common property?
Most of my concern is joint. We bought house together and it has both names on it. A car has both name on it too and it has not paid off yet.
Also, if we do not come to agreement between us, what would be next step?
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Old 10-31-2003, 11:43 AM
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"How is property and debit divided?"
Property and debt that is clearly yours, remains yours.
Property and debt that is clearly his, remains his.
Any OTHER property or debt is subject to negotiation as to ownership and possession.
Once the 'negoiations' are finalized, put it in writing and all parties sign and date.

Also, any 'negotiated debt obligation' that you do is NOT binding on the creditor, who can still pursue recovery against all parties to the debt.
I can see "Property and debt that is clearly yours, remains yours.
Property and debt that is clearly his, remains his." No doubt about that.

My main concern is what is joint account property and debt, such as a house and a car. Neither one of them has not paid off, and what if we do not come close to agreement on negotiation, what should I do?
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:24 PM
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Is this a homosexual relationship?

If so, let's talk!!!
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:28 PM
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"My main concern is what is joint account property and debt, such as a house and a car. Neither one of them has not paid off, and what if we do not come close to agreement on negotiation, what should I do?"
*** This is a common problem when two people who are not legally related decide to co-mingle their finances and debts. Simply, you either HAVE to come to some type of mutual agreement, or a third party (usually a court) will do it for you. There are no 'property fairies' who can wave a magic wand and magically solve this problem.
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There are at least 17 lawsuits (!!) pending in various courts, including the US Supreme Court, asking if Obama is a natural born citizen (as req'd by Art II, Sec 1 of the US Constitution).

Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:36 PM
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Is this a homosexual relationship?

If so, let's talk!!!
It is not homosexual relationship.
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:42 PM
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Ok, that's too bad worth the try though.

Did you keep receipts? How long did you live together? Did you shop at Wal*Mart?
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
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"My main concern is what is joint account property and debt, such as a house and a car. Neither one of them has not paid off, and what if we do not come close to agreement on negotiation, what should I do?"
*** This is a common problem when two people who are not legally related decide to co-mingle their finances and debts. Simply, you either HAVE to come to some type of mutual agreement, or a third party (usually a court) will do it for you. There are no 'property fairies' who can wave a magic wand and magically solve this problem.
Another words, if we do not come to mutual agreement, I need to hire an attorney to protect myself? Is there any kind of article, or explanation of law I can read about?
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:45 PM
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Try episode 483 of People's Court or episdoe 79 of Judge Judy, that's a good start.
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Old 10-31-2003, 01:00 PM
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"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."
C C Colton.

Well, they say that the weak often try to imitate their masters, usually in an attempt to hide their own shortcomings. And it looks like another fan has taken to try to imitate me on the forum.

He is using the name JEXT.

Enjoy it while you can.... your time is short.
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There are at least 17 lawsuits (!!) pending in various courts, including the US Supreme Court, asking if Obama is a natural born citizen (as req'd by Art II, Sec 1 of the US Constitution).

Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!
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Old 10-31-2003, 01:08 PM
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"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."
C C Colton.

Well, they say that the weak often try to imitate their masters, usually in an attempt to hide their own shortcomings. And it looks like another fan has taken to try to imitate me on the forum.

He is using the name JEXT.

Enjoy it while you can.... your time is short.
What is this mean? I don't understand. I am bit confused. Is this another internet teasing thing?
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Old 10-31-2003, 01:13 PM
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Nope, it is an 'imposter' using the name JEXT to try to confuse you into thinking his post is from me. He has already been kicked off the forum and we are in the process of deleting some of his posts.
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There are at least 17 lawsuits (!!) pending in various courts, including the US Supreme Court, asking if Obama is a natural born citizen (as req'd by Art II, Sec 1 of the US Constitution).

Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!
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Old 10-31-2003, 01:23 PM
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Honestly, wouldn't it just be easier to unload (sell) the car, eliminate the joint debt and divide anything that might be left? Instead of having an attorney fight for it? Then you each go out and buy a car yourselves.

As to the house, it can either be sold and any profits split, or one can refinance and buy out the other. Get a good appraisal to determine value. Do NOT expect to leave the current mortgage in place and have that be acceptable. The lender will continue to hold the other person equally responsible for the debt, even if they no longer own it. And it will inhibit their ability to buy another place for themselves.
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