Home     Law Advice     Insurance Advice     Community    
Medical and Health Care Malpractice : Includes Doctor, Dentist, Druggist, Hospital and Nursing Home Malpractice
Go Back   FreeAdvice Legal Forum > ACCIDENT AND INJURY LAW > Medical and Health Care Malpractice

Powered by Attorney Pages


  Find An Attorney In Your Area    
 

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-13-2009, 04:42 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2

Can an apartment complex refuse to allow home births?


What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? County of Ventura, California

I have been cleared by my doctor for a home birth, and have seeing both a doctor as well as a midwife. At this time, my husband and I are paying out of pocket for everything, and we, and the doctor and midwife, believe that the right option for this delivery is a home birth. We are a block away from the hospital, so if anything should go wrong, we are a block away.

I mentioned off-handedly to our apartment manager that I was looking forward to this home birth, only to be told that the complex doesn't allow home births. No reason was given when I asked.

We have paid a substantial deposit as well as have full renter's insurance to the tune of $1mil.

I need to know ASAP if apartment complexes can deny a home birth. Home births are legal in this state, as is midwifery. I am due any day now. If we go ahead with a home birth, what can the manager do? There is nothing in the lease about this. The closest would be a mention of water-filled furniture holding more than 10 gallons is not allowed on non-first-floor units. We are in a bottom-floor unit.
  #2  
Old 10-13-2009, 04:51 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Vertiform City
Posts: 5,138
Quote:
Originally Posted by Want Homebirth View Post
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? County of Ventura, California

I have been cleared by my doctor for a home birth, and have seeing both a doctor as well as a midwife. At this time, my husband and I are paying out of pocket for everything, and we, and the doctor and midwife, believe that the right option for this delivery is a home birth. We are a block away from the hospital, so if anything should go wrong, we are a block away.

I mentioned off-handedly to our apartment manager that I was looking forward to this home birth, only to be told that the complex doesn't allow home births. No reason was given when I asked.

We have paid a substantial deposit as well as have full renter's insurance to the tune of $1mil.

I need to know ASAP if apartment complexes can deny a home birth. Home births are legal in this state, as is midwifery. I am due any day now. If we go ahead with a home birth, what can the manager do? There is nothing in the lease about this. The closest would be a mention of water-filled furniture holding more than 10 gallons is not allowed on non-first-floor units. We are in a bottom-floor unit.
Well.

Do you think they are going to stop you?

I don't see how they can.
__________________
I've often thought of becoming a golf club.
  #3  
Old 10-13-2009, 05:02 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 172
They don't need to know that you've gone into labor. I don't see how they can stop you if the lease doesn't prohibit this. What the heck, call a local attorney and ask what can it hurt? It's a bit late in the game to change your plans now. The only problem I can see is if you have permit parking only they could start something if your husband asks the office for a permit for the midwife to park. Worst case scenario have him pick her up.
  #4  
Old 10-13-2009, 05:04 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 17,858
It's their building, if they don't want the liability, they don't have to allow it. On the other hand, if it's not in your lease that it's not allowed, then there's not much they can do to stop you. They can try to evict you for it, but if it's not in the lease, they won't get very far. But you might want to consider respecting their wishes, since it is their building. And if you're month-to-month, instead of a fixed term lease, they can give you 30 days notice to move at any time.
__________________
Lawsuits are not about justice. They are about MONEY. If you don't want money, then you shouldn't be thinking about suing. And people post here because they are thinking about suing. Because they want money, no matter how much they don't want to admit that to themselves.

-Auto insurance adjuster for 2 years - as of 6/15/09, I am FREE!
  #5  
Old 10-13-2009, 05:04 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 21,746
Of course, plan on moving at the end of your lease period.
__________________
*
*
The information I gave is based on my 7 seconds of research on Google. Review the information yourself to make an informed decision.

Communication is KEY - 10 mins of talking now can save you months of headaches later!

Masterfully stating the obvious to the oblivious! (Thanks SP!)

Tell it like it is! When all else fails, make up a statistic!

Gender references shall apply equally to the other gender. I will not correct gender mistakes (unless I want to)
  #6  
Old 10-13-2009, 05:04 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Vertiform City
Posts: 5,138
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adalaide78 View Post
I don't see how they can stop you if the lease doesn't prohibit this.
I don't see how they can stop her even IF the lease DID prohibit it.
__________________
I've often thought of becoming a golf club.
  #7  
Old 10-13-2009, 05:13 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2
It is very late in the game to suddenly switch plans. Our doctor advised against going to the local hospital unless it's an emergency, but it's the only one our insurance will cover (won't cover anything else which is why it's all out of pocket). The local hospital is notorious for not being so great with labor and delivery, and there's been talk of shutting it down. With too few rooms for delivery, women routinely end up laboring and delivering in hallways or heavily pressured into c-sections to get them out of the L&D department faster, and they're chronically understaffed in that department. My sister was unattended in a hallway waiting for one of the rooms when her baby came out. There weren't enough nurses or doctors to go around that day. So I would get so much less care there for a routine delivery than at home.

Xylene, we're worried they'll call 9-1-1 and try to force transport.

Adelaide (we almost went with that name for a girl), it's all open parking.

ecmst12 and Zigner, we're 2 months into a new 12-month lease. We've been residents for a long time, but don't want to stay past the end of this lease, so won't be bothered if they won't renew it. We're considering taking the penalty of an additional month's rent to break the lease in the fall anyway.

We just don't want to deal with them trying to evict in the next few months, or trying to force transport.

Adelaide, what kind of attorney should I call? I don't think this is really medical malpractice, but I don't know what other medical attorneys there are.
  #8  
Old 10-13-2009, 05:29 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 17,858
I don't think anyone can FORCE you to be transported anywhere. And how will they know anyway? Unless you make an unholy racket....which, well not everything is like the movies, right?
__________________
Lawsuits are not about justice. They are about MONEY. If you don't want money, then you shouldn't be thinking about suing. And people post here because they are thinking about suing. Because they want money, no matter how much they don't want to admit that to themselves.

-Auto insurance adjuster for 2 years - as of 6/15/09, I am FREE!
  #9  
Old 10-13-2009, 06:12 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,584
Quote:
Originally Posted by ecmst12 View Post
I don't think anyone can FORCE you to be transported anywhere. And how will they know anyway? Unless you make an unholy racket....which, well not everything is like the movies, right?
last one was. i didn't even have time for an aspirin.
  #10  
Old 10-13-2009, 06:57 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 172
I would think an attorney who specializes in landlord/tenent disputes would best know exactly what your rights are. They definately can not force you into an ambulance unless you are unable to make that sort of decision for yourself. I pass out sometimes and the immediate reaction is to call 911. I've never been forced into treatment or transport. My next piece of advice has nothing at all to do with what is or isn't legal or within anyone's rights... YOU paid out of pocket and this "hospital" sounds like more of a joke then a place to recieve medical treatment. I wouldn't go there regardless of the consequences.
  #11  
Old 10-13-2009, 07:02 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: I dunno. What time is it?
Posts: 1,348
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adalaide78 View Post
They definately can not force you into an ambulance unless you are unable to make that sort of decision for yourself. I pass out sometimes and the immediate reaction is to call 911. I've never been forced into treatment or transport.
Since the husband in in the picture, he would be the one making the decisions if she is unable to do so. "They" would have no decision making capacity.
  #12  
Old 10-13-2009, 07:26 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Weigh a pie...
Posts: 6,783
IF you go into labor there and IF you go ahead with your desired birth plan and IF afterwards the landlord makes a fuss.....

...do ask your landlord to show you exactly where it states you are forbidden to birth your own child in your home, whether that home is rented or purchased.

I'd love to see his/her answer.

Seriously.
__________________
*****************************


When you can't bear something but it goes on anyway, the person who survives isn't you anymore; you've changed and become someone else, a new person, the one who did bear it after all.
— Austin Grossman

Quote:
Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo
  #13  
Old 10-13-2009, 08:26 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,781
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zigner View Post
Of course, plan on moving at the end of your lease period.
And if you get any schmutz on the floor, don't plan on getting the deposit back.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdslilangel View Post
Just leave it as is and stop making yourselves sound real stupid about the sisutation at hand. Further more I don't need to know how to spell corcetly on here. I know how to spell perfectly fine. I did graduate high school and never once had any problems with my grammer.
  #14  
Old 10-13-2009, 09:07 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: IN
Posts: 1,175
Quote:
Originally Posted by xylene View Post
I don't see how they can stop her even IF the lease DID prohibit it.
Yeah, what are they going to do? Make the midwife put the baby back?

Good luck on the birth!
__________________
Originally Posted by cbg
Quote:
Just because you see it on Law and Order doesn't mean that's the way it works in the real world. They have a script.
Originally posted by Rushia
Quote:
I'm not an attorney either, I just know a whole lotta stuff.
  #15  
Old 10-13-2009, 09:33 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Weigh a pie...
Posts: 6,783
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indiana Filer View Post
Yeah, what are they going to do? Make the midwife put the baby back?

Good luck on the birth!
Man, I have my doulas at the ready to fight this one - it's probably one of the most irritating situations I've read. In at least a few weeks anyway.

(No, OP, I don't mean you - I mean your asshat of a landlord. And I'm being really nice there....believe me )
__________________
*****************************


When you can't bear something but it goes on anyway, the person who survives isn't you anymore; you've changed and become someone else, a new person, the one who did bear it after all.
— Austin Grossman

Quote:
Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:15 AM.



IMPORTANT NOTICE
THE VIEWS EXPRESSED ON THIS PAGE WERE NOT REVIEWED BY THE EDITORIAL STAFF OR ATTORNEYS AT FREEADVICE.COM. Thousands of professionally prepared and reviewed questions and answers in 130 legal categories are to be found at the Question and Answer pages at FreeAdvice.com.

F
reeAdvice Forums are intended to enable consumers to benefit from the experience of other consumers who have faced similar legal issues. FreeAdvice does NOT vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any posting or the qualifications of any person responding. Use of the Forums is subject to our Terms and Conditions which prohibit advertisements, solicitations or other commercial messages, or false, defamatory, abusive, vulgar, or harassing messages, and subject violators to a fee for each improper posting. All postings reflect the views of the author but become the property of FreeAdvice. Information on FreeAdvice or a Forum should not be relied upon and is not a substitute for advice from an attorney licensed in your jurisdiction who you have retained to represent you. To locate an attorney visit AttorneyPages.com. Copyright since 1995 by Advice Company. All Rights Reserved.