lip ring sewn inside lip

[laura0105]

What is the name of your state? Oregon

Individual was involved in a bike accident which resulted in severe injury to her upper lip. She had a prior lip piercing which was submerged in her lip as a result of the accident. Individual was intoxicated at the time, and remained so upon her arrival at the emergency room, at which time she was given morphine. She was unconscious during the entire time at the emergency room, and was did not sign any type of medical waiver. ER doctor completed 30 stitches, and in doing so, sewed the patient's lip right inside her upper lip. Now swollen. ER doctor refuses to correct the mistake. Individual is without medical insurance and has no other recourse.

[moburkes]

Originally Posted by laura0105

What is the name of your state? Oregon

Individual was involved in a bike accident which resulted in severe injury to her upper lip. She had a prior lip piercing which was submerged in her lip as a result of the accident. Individual was intoxicated at the time, and remained so upon her arrival at the emergency room, at which time she was given morphine. She was unconscious during the entire time at the emergency room, and was did not sign any type of medical waiver. ER doctor completed 30 stitches, and in doing so, sewed the patient's lip right inside her upper lip. Now swollen. ER doctor refuses to correct the mistake. Individual is without medical insurance and has no other recourse.

Say that again, please.

[You Are Guilty]

Originally Posted by laura0105

What is the name of your state? Oregon

Individual was involved in a bike accident which resulted in severe injury to her upper lip. She had a prior lip piercing which was submerged in her lip as a result of the accident. Individual was intoxicated at the time, and remained so upon her arrival at the emergency room, at which time she was given morphine. She was unconscious during the entire time at the emergency room, and was did not sign any type of medical waiver. ER doctor completed 30 stitches, and in doing so, sewed the patient's lip right inside her upper lip. Now swollen. ER doctor refuses to correct the mistake. Individual is without medical insurance and has no other recourse.

Thanks for sharing. In return, I offer you my favorite recipe for pot roast:
* 1/2 lb of beef shoulder or boneless chuck roast
* 1 Tbsp olive or grapeseed oil
* salt, (fresh) pepper, italian seasoning to taste
* 1 large yellow onion, chopped or sliced
* 4 cloves of garlic, peeled
* 1/2 cup of red wine (a nice cab is my favorite)
* Several carrots, peeled and cut lengthwise

1. Use a thick-bottomed covered pot, just large enough to hold the roast and the vegetables. Heat 1 Tbsp of oil on medium high heat (hot enough to sear the meat). Sprinkle and rub salt, pepper, and Italian seasoning all over the meat. Brown roast in pot, all over, several minutes on each side. Don't move the roast while a side is browning, or it won't brown well.

2. When roast is browned, lift up the meat and add garlic and chopped onion to the bottom of the pan. Let the roast sit on top of the onions. Add 1/2 cup of red wine. Cover. Bring to simmer and the lowest heat possible to maintain a low simmer.

3. Now this is the "secret" - cook for 3 1/2 to 4 hours, until meat is tender. (cut the time by half if using a pressure cooker). Near the end of the cooking, add the carrots and cook until tender, about 10 minutes.

NOTE: After cooking 3 1/2 hours, but before adding the carrots, note how much liquid has been released by the meat. If your pot roast is too dry, make sure the pan you are using has a tight fitting lid and that you are cooking at the lowest possible heat to maintain the low simmering.

Best served with potatoes (I like roasted with a rub of olive oil, fresh pepper, oinion soup mix and garlic).

[ecmst12]

This is likely not malpractice if the lip ring was completely obscured by swelling etc at the time of the ER visit. Obviously it needs to be removed as soon as possible or she could end up with a really bad infection! Were x-rays of the face/head taken and did the doctor see them before doing the stitches? That's the only way that it could *maybe* be seen as a mistake.

The ER doctor is probably not qualified to do the removal; at this point a surgeon would be needed. If she doesn't qualify for medical assistence then maybe she can find a doctor who will work out a payment plan with her.

[lealea1005]

Originally Posted by laura0105

What is the name of your state? Oregon

Individual was involved in a bike accident which resulted in severe injury to her upper lip. She had a prior lip piercing which was submerged in her lip as a result of the accident. Individual was intoxicated at the time, and remained so upon her arrival at the emergency room, at which time she was given morphine. She was unconscious during the entire time at the emergency room, and was did not sign any type of medical waiver. ER doctor completed 30 stitches, and in doing so, sewed the patient's lip right inside her upper lip. Now swollen. ER doctor refuses to correct the mistake. Individual is without medical insurance and has no other recourse.

Morphine is given when intoxicated people are combative.
Lips swell after suturing.
If there's any question at all, they'll get an x-ray when she returns to the ER to get her sutures removed.

Great recipe, YAG...thanks!

[ellencee]

I think the OP is seeking to find a way to make the Emergency Department continue her treatment by removing sutures and the lip ring (if it is truly there). Follow-up care, at the expense of the injured person, is the only recourse.

No insurance? Cash and payment plans work well.

EC

[ellencee]

Originally Posted by You Are Guilty

Thanks for sharing. In return, I offer you my favorite recipe for pot roast:
* 1/2 lb of beef shoulder or boneless chuck roast
* 1 Tbsp olive or grapeseed oil
* salt, (fresh) pepper, italian seasoning to taste
* 1 large yellow onion, chopped or sliced
* 4 cloves of garlic, peeled
* 1/2 cup of red wine (a nice cab is my favorite)
* Several carrots, peeled and cut lengthwise

1. Use a thick-bottomed covered pot, just large enough to hold the roast and the vegetables. Heat 1 Tbsp of oil on medium high heat (hot enough to sear the meat). Sprinkle and rub salt, pepper, and Italian seasoning all over the meat. Brown roast in pot, all over, several minutes on each side. Don't move the roast while a side is browning, or it won't brown well.

2. When roast is browned, lift up the meat and add garlic and chopped onion to the bottom of the pan. Let the roast sit on top of the onions. Add 1/2 cup of red wine. Cover. Bring to simmer and the lowest heat possible to maintain a low simmer.

3. Now this is the "secret" - cook for 3 1/2 to 4 hours, until meat is tender. (cut the time by half if using a pressure cooker). Near the end of the cooking, add the carrots and cook until tender, about 10 minutes.

NOTE: After cooking 3 1/2 hours, but before adding the carrots, note how much liquid has been released by the meat. If your pot roast is too dry, make sure the pan you are using has a tight fitting lid and that you are cooking at the lowest possible heat to maintain the low simmering.

Best served with potatoes (I like roasted with a rub of olive oil, fresh pepper, oinion soup mix and garlic).

For a variation in spices, omit the Italian Seasoning and add a couple of bay leaves and 1/2 teaspoon to 1 teaspoon of Allspice or ground cloves, whichever you prefer.

yum...

EC

[barry1817]

Originally Posted by laura0105

What is the name of your state? Oregon

Individual was involved in a bike accident which resulted in severe injury to her upper lip. She had a prior lip piercing which was submerged in her lip as a result of the accident. Individual was intoxicated at the time, and remained so upon her arrival at the emergency room, at which time she was given morphine. She was unconscious during the entire time at the emergency room, and was did not sign any type of medical waiver. ER doctor completed 30 stitches, and in doing so, sewed the patient's lip right inside her upper lip. Now swollen. ER doctor refuses to correct the mistake. Individual is without medical insurance and has no other recourse.

I am really surprised that in today's age, no x-rays were taken with what appears to be a major injury. It would be interesting to know if x-rays were taken prior to treatment and what they showed.

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