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10-06-2008, 11:00 PM
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| |  Not a hernia....It's a TUMOR
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Texas.
About a month ago I went to the ER complaining of abdominal pain in my navel area. The ER doctor never ran any test, or xrays but diagnosed me with a hernia. He also followed up with "Do you have any insurance?" Once I stated "No", he sent me home with instructions to take Tylenol for any pain. The other night I was rushed to the same ER with the same pains, this time a different doctor requested a CAT scan and stated that I don't have a hernia, I have a TUMOR. And, he stated that I've had it for a year. I was in that same hospital a year ago for about a week, they did a CAT scan then as well and no one said anything about a TUMOR. I could've had this treated a year ago. Now, I must have a biopsy to see if it's benign or not. Case or no case? What about being denied medical treatment after the first diagnosis for the hernia??? |
10-07-2008, 07:55 AM
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| | | Um, what did you have a cat scan OF a year ago?
What damages did you sustain due to the month delay in treatment? |
10-07-2008, 10:19 AM
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What about being denied medical treatment after the first diagnosis for the hernia???
| Hospitals are only required to provide minimal care to provide relief from what ails the patient, there is no requirement to run a bunch of tests to confirm the exact cause of your problem. Not having medical insurance that would cover the cost is another valid reason. Misdiagnosis and malpractice are 2 different things. Also, how do you know the tumor showed up on the cat scan from a year ago? At this time you have no case.
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10-07-2008, 11:03 AM
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| | | Even if the cat scan was of the same body part, they were not LOOKING for a tumor, and if was visible at all, it was probably so small at that they would have to have been specifically looking for it in order to notice it. |
10-07-2008, 01:29 PM
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| | | hernia tumor
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Originally Posted by brandeon69  What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Texas.
About a month ago I went to the ER complaining of abdominal pain in my navel area. The ER doctor never ran any test, or xrays but diagnosed me with a hernia. He also followed up with "Do you have any insurance?" Once I stated "No", he sent me home with instructions to take Tylenol for any pain. The other night I was rushed to the same ER with the same pains, this time a different doctor requested a CAT scan and stated that I don't have a hernia, I have a TUMOR. And, he stated that I've had it for a year. I was in that same hospital a year ago for about a week, they did a CAT scan then as well and no one said anything about a TUMOR. I could've had this treated a year ago. Now, I must have a biopsy to see if it's benign or not. Case or no case? What about being denied medical treatment after the first diagnosis for the hernia??? | It would be interesting to see what the CAT scan was last year, and if the abnormality showed up and wasn't disclosed.  |
10-07-2008, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by barry1817 It would be interesting to see what the CAT scan was last year, and if the abnormality showed up and wasn't disclosed. | Me, too. It's the only area I see that is suspect for negligence/medical malpractice.
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10-17-2008, 04:55 AM
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| |  Hernia....tumor
Yes, according to the ER doctor the abnormality was visible a year ago. But I wasn't informed. And, the ER doctor stated the Radiologist didn't feel like it was significant enough to mention??? Why wasn't I told either way? They are saying that the Radiologist didn't read it properly. 
Had I been told early on, I could've had the surgery then. The mass has gotten larger, and I'm in even more pain now vs then. They were wrong & they know it. They're trying to cover it us. |
10-17-2008, 01:23 PM
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| | | medical problems
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Originally Posted by racer72 Hospitals are only required to provide minimal care to provide relief from what ails the patient, there is no requirement to run a bunch of tests to confirm the exact cause of your problem. Not having medical insurance that would cover the cost is another valid reason. Misdiagnosis and malpractice are 2 different things. Also, how do you know the tumor showed up on the cat scan from a year ago? At this time you have no case. | I have to question this post, and ask what would have been the treatment in the ER, if the patient had insurance. I would then have to question what the ER doctor was planning if he wasn't aware of the patient's insurance status or ability to pay. And I am specifically remaining in the realm of ER treatment because I believe there is a mandate to treat.
Wonder if the ER doctor after asking about insurance, asked if the patient could pay for treatment. What would have happened if the patient was asked and he had his own money. But that question wasn't asked according to the poster.
This reminds me of cases where a person with chest pain is brought to ER and told to go home when initial pain subsides and told to take a couple aspirin. That isn't a diagnosis in an ER for a problem. |
10-17-2008, 02:53 PM
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| | | You need to take the films to another doctor to be re read to know whether anything questionable took place. The abnormality may NOT have been significant enough to inform you about back then, not abnormalities are. Doctors sometimes have a fine line to walk between disclosing TOO much and freaking patients out about insignificant anomalies and potentially failing to notify them about something that may eventually get worse. At this point, you don't even know what the lump IS or if it's dangerous. The only person who could tell you if the standard of care was met is another radiologist. |
10-18-2008, 12:03 AM
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| |  Reply to Hernia or Tumor
I do plan on taking the film to another dr. to see if anything questionalble took place. Whether r not the abnormality may have or may have NOT been significant enough to inform me back then, isn't good enough. My take is, Doctors do NOT ever have a fine line to walk between disclosing TOO much info. I'm entitled to know one way or the other. This is something that has definitely gotten worse. I do know this has gotten worse. And the lump IS a tumor not a hernia. I will be meeting with a lawyer regarding this issue, soon. |
10-18-2008, 01:01 AM
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| | | It is good enough if the decision not to alert you about the abnormality fell within the standard of care. That's why you need an expert. |
10-18-2008, 08:04 AM
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| | | Brandeon...are you female, is this an ovarian mass? If so how old are you? |
10-18-2008, 06:10 PM
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| | Hernia...Tumor
Yes, I am a female, 39 yrs. old. I don't know if it's an ovarian mass or not?? They've only stated "abnormal mass"?? |
10-18-2008, 06:17 PM
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| | No hernia....
I haven't had any surgery, the other night at ER the doctor requested a Sonogram but when I declined a catheder--he cancelled the test. I asked could I drink liquids to fill my bladder, or even get liquids via an I.V. bag (I had an I.V. in my arm) the ER doctor said "NO". Catheder or nothing. So, I got nothing. I mean seriously.....why would I want to add more pain to what I was already experiencing??? |
10-18-2008, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by brandeon69 I haven't had any surgery, the other night at ER the doctor requested a Sonogram but when I declined a catheder--he cancelled the test. I asked could I drink liquids to fill my bladder, or even get liquids via an I.V. bag (I had an I.V. in my arm) the ER doctor said "NO". Catheder or nothing. So, I got nothing. I mean seriously.....why would I want to add more pain to what I was already experiencing??? | So, did you follow up with your PCP or GYN to get an order for the Ultrasound? The catheter would have been the fastest way to get fluids into your bladder and have the test/get the results. The IV and or drinking liquids could have taken hours.
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