Is this right or wrong??

[George911]

What is the name of your state? Kentucky

I am a resident of the state of Kentucky and my son was involved in an incident where he was being robbed by another boy and this happened in the state of West Virginia..My son was beaten with a club and his injuries,were really bad and he had to be taken to a local hospital in W,Va. around 5:00 AM in the morning on March 14th 2006.I was called to come to the hospital where the ambulance had taken my son after this incident happened at 5:45 AM on the same morning and when I arrived at the hospital at 6:05 AM my brother and mother were already there......The ER Dr. on duty at that time called us back in a room at 6:15 that morning where he told us that in his opinion my son was officialy brain dead,but he said to officially pronounce a person brain dead that it took the opinions of 2 Doctors to agree on that....The 2nd ER Doctor wasn't going to be coming in that morning until 8:00 AM so the ER Doctor on that was on duty at that time told us to go back out and wait in the lobby until the 2nd ER Doctor came on duty at 8:00 AM that morning..The ER Dr. on duty had my son on life support,and right about 8:15 they called us back in a room again where both Doctors said they had talked things over and had both agreed that my son was officially brain dead and they asked me if I wanted to donate his organs and I answered yes that I did want to donate his organs,so they told me to go back and sit in the lobby and wait on the Coroner to arrive so I could sign papers to donate my sons organs...I sat out in the lobby until around 8:45 AM waiting on the Coroner to arrive at the hospital,then at 9:00 AM they called us back in the room again and both ER Doctors said they saw a glimmer of hope and asked me if I wanted him flown out to a different hospital and I said yes since there was some hope as they had told me...So I had to sign my name on a paper to have him flown out...The helicopter finally landed at this hospital around 9:30 AM.....They finally got my son loaded on the healthnet helicopter right about 10:00 AM and flew him approximately 85 miles to a different hospital...As soon as the helicopter took off I was driven to the other hospital,by a relative where I arrived close to 12m that day...When I arrived at the hospital he was flown to they were still doing an MRI and hadn't put my son in a room yet....When I was finally able to go back and see my son he was still on life suport and not doing good at all..At 2:45 AM on March 15th the Doctor at this hospital said his liver and kidneys were starting to shut down and wanted to know if I wanted to sign papers to take him off of the life support...It was really a hard thing for me to do,but I signed the papers because it was to hard for me to see my son suffer anymore......On August 21st of 2007 the prosecuting attorney wanted to meet with me where he had went to the Hospital my son was flown to and talked to the Doctor that was taking care of my son and the Doctor told him that my son should have never been flown out from the local hospital where he was 1st taken too,and told the prosecuting attorney my son was really dead when he arrived at the hospital that they flew him to...I was just wanting to ask if anyone thinks anything should be or could be done about the 2 ER Doctors at the 1st hospital he was taken too..Its a very sad situation and any help or answers would be appreciated**************..

[lya]

Originally Posted by George911

What is the name of your state? Kentucky

I am a resident of the state of Kentucky and my son was involved in an incident where he was being robbed by another boy and this happened in the state of West Virginia..My son was beaten with a club and his injuries,were really bad and he had to be taken to a local hospital in W,Va. around 5:00 AM in the morning on March 14th 2006.I was called to come to the hospital where the ambulance had taken my son after this incident happened at 5:45 AM on the same morning and when I arrived at the hospital at 6:05 AM my brother and mother were already there......The ER Dr. on duty at that time called us back in a room at 6:15 that morning where he told us that in his opinion my son was officialy brain dead,but he said to officially pronounce a person brain dead that it took the opinions of 2 Doctors to agree on that....The 2nd ER Doctor wasn't going to be coming in that morning until 8:00 AM so the ER Doctor on that was on duty at that time told us to go back out and wait in the lobby until the 2nd ER Doctor came on duty at 8:00 AM that morning..The ER Dr. on duty had my son on life support,and right about 8:15 they called us back in a room again where both Doctors said they had talked things over and had both agreed that my son was officially brain dead and they asked me if I wanted to donate his organs and I answered yes that I did want to donate his organs,so they told me to go back and sit in the lobby and wait on the Coroner to arrive so I could sign papers to donate my sons organs...I sat out in the lobby until around 8:45 AM waiting on the Coroner to arrive at the hospital,then at 9:00 AM they called us back in the room again and both ER Doctors said they saw a glimmer of hope and asked me if I wanted him flown out to a different hospital and I said yes since there was some hope as they had told me...So I had to sign my name on a paper to have him flown out...The helicopter finally landed at this hospital around 9:30 AM.....They finally got my son loaded on the healthnet helicopter right about 10:00 AM and flew him approximately 85 miles to a different hospital...As soon as the helicopter took off I was driven to the other hospital,by a relative where I arrived close to 12m that day...When I arrived at the hospital he was flown to they were still doing an MRI and hadn't put my son in a room yet....When I was finally able to go back and see my son he was still on life suport and not doing good at all..At 2:45 AM on March 15th the Doctor at this hospital said his liver and kidneys were starting to shut down and wanted to know if I wanted to sign papers to take him off of the life support...It was really a hard thing for me to do,but I signed the papers because it was to hard for me to see my son suffer anymore......On August 21st of 2007 the prosecuting attorney wanted to meet with me where he had went to the Hospital my son was flown to and talked to the Doctor that was taking care of my son and the Doctor told him that my son should have never been flown out from the local hospital where he was 1st taken too,and told the prosecuting attorney my son was really dead when he arrived at the hospital that they flew him to...I was just wanting to ask if anyone thinks anything should be or could be done about the 2 ER Doctors at the 1st hospital he was taken too..Its a very sad situation and any help or answers would be appreciated**************..

You want to know if the two doctors who saw a small glimmer of hope for your son's life should be punished for giving your son a chance to maximize that glimmer of hope?

Surely, you are so deep in grief that you do not know what you are saying or doing.

[George911]

Originally Posted by lya

You want to know if the two doctors who saw a small glimmer of hope for your son's life should be punished for giving your son a chance to maximize that glimmer of hope?

Surely, you are so deep in grief that you do not know what you are saying or doing.

I agree that I'm in grief and I know exactly what I'm saying and doing.....I want to know why these doctors told me to go out and wait on the coroner and then change their minds after 4 hours to have him flown out......

Just maybe you can go through this situation and see what its like sometime!!!!!!!!!

[lya]

So, now you want my child to die?!

No one here can help you. You need a psychiatrist--like, yesterday.

[las365]

I was just wanting to ask if anyone thinks anything should be or could be done about the 2 ER Doctors at the 1st hospital he was taken too

I want to know why these doctors told me to go out and wait on the coroner and then change their minds after 4 hours to have him flown out......

I can't figure out exactly where your complaint with the ER doctors lies. I don't think anyone is saying that your situation isn't sad, it certainly is, but from a legal standpoint, unless you can prove that your son would have survived if he had been flown to the second hospital earlier, there is no medical malpractice case. In the alternative, if your complaint is that the doctors should have just accepted the finality of the situation and your suffering was extended because he wasn't taken off life support at the first hospital, that is likewise not an actionable medical malpractice claim.

Just maybe you can go through this situation and see what its like sometime!!!!!!!!!

That is really unnecessary and doesn't give anyone an incentive to try to help you. The people who are to blame are the ones who murdered your son, not the doctors or posters on this forum.

[quincy]

George911 -

I know that the senseless beating of your 25 year old son is causing you to search for answers to his death. You want someone to blame - the father of the perpetrator who removed the bat used in the attack, the sheriffs at the scene who may not have secured it properly, the doctors in the ER who didn't want to accept their diagnosis of your young son's condition any more than you did, the attorneys handling the case. The only one to blame is the one who picked up the bat and beat your son to death. And he will be prosecuted.

Even with his prosecution, however, there will still be a lot of questions that you may never find the answers to. The big one is "Why?"

I am really really sorry for your loss - I can only imagine the heartbreak you are suffering.

[lya]

I just want to point out that the first set of physicians did ask the father, the original poster, if he wanted his son to transfer to another hospital and the answer was "yes".

I think most parents would make the decision to act on the glimmer of hope from the physical findings and from the availability of a hospital with greater ability to care for brain trauma. It would potentially create a series of loss, though: traumatic loss of the son, glimmer of hope followed by loss of hope, followed by a second loss of the same son.