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Old 05-17-2006, 08:04 PM
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Is it a 8 year contract?


What is the name of your state? NY

Ok I have another lifeguard that is engaged to a Marine (those dress blues always get em ;-)). The kid (the Marine) is due to be done with active duty in 7 months. He will have completed his four years of active duty.

My question is: Isn't he still obligated to another four years of inactive reserve duty?

My lifeguard told me that he told her he was done and that was it. He (the Marine) told her he looked at his contract and he is not obliged to any further service.

Now I am a little old and it has been a while but I think I am right in telling her that he is obliged to another four years of inactive reserve status. Am I right?

Thanks bunches
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Old 05-17-2006, 08:22 PM
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The contract controls...unless you can post the contract for us to read there's no way we can give an opinion.

And you are NOT old. My 4 years came with a 4 year inactive guard committment also. Until I became a disabled Vet
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Old 05-17-2006, 08:53 PM
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The contract controls...unless you can post the contract for us to read there's no way we can give an opinion.

And you are NOT old. My 4 years came with a 4 year inactive guard committment also. Until I became a disabled Vet
I actually thought that eight years was pretty standard stuff. Perhaps I am wrong; it wouldn't be the first time.

As I recall all contracts where for 8 years. either 6 active and 2 inactive reserve or 4 active and 4 inactive or two active etc. etc. You get the point.

So I guess things have changed?
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I actually thought that eight years was pretty standard stuff. Perhaps I am wrong; it wouldn't be the first time.

As I recall all contracts where for 8 years. either 6 active and 2 inactive reserve or 4 active and 4 inactive or two active etc. etc. You get the point.

So I guess things have changed?
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Old 05-18-2006, 01:10 AM
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Still to this day, contracts total 8 years ISO (Initial Service Obligation). All branches use the same contracts, and he needs to look at it again.

He *does* have 4 years IRR time, minus the time he spent in DEP before shipping (that counts as IRR, too).
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ThePizzaGuy, respectfully, when they had me, it was then a total of six years all together!
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Old 05-18-2006, 08:34 PM
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Still to this day, contracts total 8 years ISO (Initial Service Obligation). All branches use the same contracts, and he needs to look at it again.

He *does* have 4 years IRR time, minus the time he spent in DEP before shipping (that counts as IRR, too).
DRTDEVL & others:

Thanks and that is what I thought.

I don't mean to disrespect (DRTDVL) you with this question. I know we have never really seen eye to eye on a lot of things, so my apologies are in advance.

How sure are you? I am getting some conflicting responses regarding this thread and I want to provide this young lady with rock solid advice if I can.

Is there a reference that is online perhaps? Something I can print out regarding this issue? A link?

Oh and Belzebreeze: Your comments are well received also. I feel younger by the day knowing your political party preferences.

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Old 05-18-2006, 11:01 PM
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I am 100% sure.

Excerpt from DD FORM 4/1:
ENLISTMENT/REENLISTMENT DOCUMENT
ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES

On the reverse side (Page 2), Section C, Subsection 10:

Quote:
10. MILITARY SERVICE OBLIGATION FOR ALL
MEMBERS OF THE ACTIVE AND RESERVE COM-
PONENTS, INCLUDING THE NATIONAL GUARD.

a. FOR ALL ENLISTEES: If this is my initial en-
listment, I must serve a total of eight (8) years. Any part
of that service not served on active duty must be served
in a Reserve Component unless I am sooner discharged.
It then goes on to explain callups, reasons for callups, length of callups, etc. This is the most recent change to the form, dated Jan 91. The exact same phrases could be found on my contract when I enlisted in 1994.

I am 100% sure.
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Old 05-25-2006, 06:14 PM
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I am 100% sure.

Excerpt from DD FORM 4/1:
ENLISTMENT/REENLISTMENT DOCUMENT
ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES

On the reverse side (Page 2), Section C, Subsection 10:



It then goes on to explain callups, reasons for callups, length of callups, etc. This is the most recent change to the form, dated Jan 91. The exact same phrases could be found on my contract when I enlisted in 1994.

I am 100% sure.

Thanks DRTDVL I printed this thread out and gave it to her and he fiance fessed up that its four active and four inactive. He is scheduled for one more deployment to Iraq before his active obligation is done.

He was either ignorant of his contract or was sparing her further worry about possibly being recalled. I think its better to know the truth.
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