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Old 01-08-2006, 03:48 AM
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AWOL As an E5

I'm an E-5/Sgt in the Army. Have been in for 4 years and re-enlisted several months ago for another 4 years. I have some personal problems going on right now as well as some issues at work and I'm considering going Awol. I'm just curious as to what the consequences are for an E-5 with that much time in? Most of the posts I see on here are all from brand new privates. Any advice or knowledge in this matter would be appreciated.
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:18 AM
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If you go AWOL

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I'm an E-5/Sgt in the Army. Have been in for 4 years and re-enlisted several months ago for another 4 years. I have some personal problems going on right now as well as some issues at work and I'm considering going Awol. I'm just curious as to what the consequences are for an E-5 with that much time in? Most of the posts I see on here are all from brand new privates. Any advice or knowledge in this matter would be appreciated.
When you are caught you will be courtmartialed. Depending on how long you are gone wild depend on the type of article 15 they give you. Usually if it is less than a month you will get a Company grade and be knocked down to private again and lose 1/2 of your pay anywhere from 3 to 6 months, Be confined to barracks for a length of time and be barred from re-enlistment next time.

On the other hand you can request counseling and also request a change of duty station. This may solve your problem at work and the counseling will hopefully help you with your other problems.
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:58 AM
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Come on, get real acmb05. An article 15 is NOT the same thing as a court-martial.

I would advise not going AWOL as a NCO. You more than likely facing a special court martial, authorized to adjudge a BCD upon your return. That is also up to 1 year confinement.

Army regs provide for hardship discharges. You need to look into that and all other options before you even contemplate AWOL.
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my bad

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Come on, get real acmb05. An article 15 is NOT the same thing as a court-martial.

I would advise not going AWOL as a NCO. You more than likely facing a special court martial, authorized to adjudge a BCD upon your return. That is also up to 1 year confinement.

Army regs provide for hardship discharges. You need to look into that and all other options before you even contemplate AWOL.
It was early I did not realize I put that in there like that.
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Some soldiers in my unit found out about my "orientation" and I have been getting threat letters on my truck. It's only been a day but I really can't go back to work with everyone knowing this about me now. That would be the reason for leaving. I figured once I turned myself in that I would tell them why I left and I would get discharged for that instead.
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Some soldiers in my unit found out about my "orientation" and I have been getting threat letters on my truck. It's only been a day but I really can't go back to work with everyone knowing this about me now. That would be the reason for leaving. I figured once I turned myself in that I would tell them why I left and I would get discharged for that instead.
Why don't you tell your command that you are a homosexual -- that WILL get you discharged (after it is investigated). Also, tell them you are being threatened, those threatening will be given no contact orders.
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Things like that don't go over to well in an infantry unit. I wouldn't want to be around the commander when he found out either.
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Old 01-09-2006, 08:20 PM
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My .02 cents...

I did the deal right after I graduated basic, so I'm not in your shoes...however, I can relate a coupld of things I have noticed -

1. We had a private that had the same "orientation". People found out, the garbage began, so he fessed up and told the commander. He had a "partner" with him in basic apparently. Anyway, the CC and 1st. Sgt. made them kiss in front of them, which they did, and they both got their ELS. (Obviously I wasn't there when it happened, I was told by this person who went through it...so take it for what it's worth)

2. When I went awol and turned myself in to Ft. Sill, there was an E5 that turned himself in as well. He was in for 4 years, his ETS was in 32 days of turning himself in. (he left because he did 1 tour in Iraq and didn't want another) As badapple always states, nothings a given, but he was there for 5 days and shipped home with good ole' OTH.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the reply. If the CO and 1sg made them do that, I believe that is definately illegal. Not that it matters. That E5 may have just recieved an oth because he was so close to his ETS, I'm 3 years and some change away from that. Can't get ahold of anyone at GI rights to find out any info. If anyone else has some knowledge, post it up. Thanks
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Old 01-10-2006, 09:21 AM
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Again, report your orientation to the base legal office or your CO. If you've already been "outed," what the heck does it matter?
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Old 01-10-2006, 09:35 AM
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I'm an E-5/Sgt in the Army. Have been in for 4 years and re-enlisted several months ago for another 4 years. I have some personal problems going on right now as well as some issues at work and I'm considering going Awol. I'm just curious as to what the consequences are for an E-5 with that much time in? Most of the posts I see on here are all from brand new privates. Any advice or knowledge in this matter would be appreciated.
Did you get a reenlistment bonus?
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Old 01-10-2006, 09:03 PM
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Yes I did recieve a re-enlistment bonus of $10,000. That's one of my main concerns as to what will happen. Also, If I'll make it worse on myself by going awol, and then telling them the situation.
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Old 01-10-2006, 11:08 PM
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Yes I did recieve a re-enlistment bonus of $10,000. That's one of my main concerns as to what will happen. Also, If I'll make it worse on myself by going awol, and then telling them the situation.
More than likely you will have to pay it back, however since you did not out yourself and someone else did, if you go to your CO or JAG like Badapple said, you may get your discharge and may not have to repay the bonus. I used to work with someone years ago before DADT and the same thing happened and he got his discharge and eventually got to keep the bonus. Don't go AWOL.
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Old 01-11-2006, 11:33 AM
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go awol hommie

come on man, if you want out, then do it. i promise ya, it'll b tha time of your life dude. jus do it dude
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confused AWOL As an E5

Contrary to those who think that awol is not an offfense: "Be advised, the longer you remain absent without leave, the stiffer the consequence will be." Also, if a court-martialed is involved and you could receive a bcd, brig time, pay forfiture and busted in rank; and so we are clear, "a bcd is a federal felony conviction; and awol are offenses against our own Country, the USA." How I know this, is because i have one and was never informed in a scintilla of what i just shared with you!
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