BCT Ship Date

[aaronsz05]

What is the name of your state? Iowa

I signed up for the ARNG Sept of 04 and my ship date to OSUT is Aug 24. Im over the standard weight test and cant pass the Assessment 1 min situp and pushup and 1.5 mile run test at my drill station. i was wondering if they will give me more time and if so how long? i remember my recruiter telling me that they will give you up to 6 months from youre entry date to pass everything. Is this true or do they give you a boot if you havent shipped before a year from when you signed. thanks

[fozzy2]

According the Human Resources Command, "Overweight soldiers scheduled to ship for BCT cannot be delayed." If you do not meet the standard on that date, you will be separated.

You may be able to re-enlist under a new contract, but I would suspect that the Army will want you to meet weight standards *before* they will sign you up again.

[DRTDEVL]

Ok, so you are fat, cannot do 17 situps, Cannot do 13 pushups, and cannot run 1 mile in less than 8:30 after a year of training?

You will be separated from the service before leaving... What are the chances you will be able to attain the standards of 42 push ups, 53 sit ups, and 2 miles in 15:54, as well as 4% less body fat within 3 months? NONE!

Be gone, big boy! You MUST ship within 365 days of signing... Your time has passed.

[questionia]

If you're over weight are you within the body fat standards? I believe they will ship you if you are withn the B.F. standards. Also, with respect to the initial strength test - they'll keep you in reception until you can do the minimum. You really should have focused more on your strength and conditioning, you never want to draw attention to yourself, especially negative attention. Your best source of information on this is your recruiter, he or she is actually your chain of command if you are a poolee. Talk to them and good luck.

[aaronsz05]

Actually drtdevil i can do 41 pushups and 31 situps in a minute but its just my run that is a little hard. if you were going to be **** you shouldnt have posted in the first place you idiot. what the hell have you done in the military? Go get a job you fag

[questionia]

Man, maybe you shouldn't ship. Guess what, you're going to get that and more at BCT. It's hard for people who have been through BCT to see people who had time to train but didn't apply themselves. Also, drop the c word. Now, relax.

That aside, and now this is outside the perview of this forum, if you want to improve your run time, run intervals. You don't have a lot of time but this will help. Alternate your training schedule. Start today, run as far as you can as fast as you can. I'm guessing that's a mile. Tomorrow, run a mile at a comfortable pace for you. Then run as fast as you can for 60 seconds - I'm talking sprints. Then walk for 2 minutes, don't walk too slow though. Then, sprint again for 60 seconds, walk for 2 minutes. Try to get ten of these combos out every other day. Then walk a mile to cool down. Also, when you run your mile, try to vary terrain, hills are good. Work hard and you'll feel better about it.

I'm 37 and can max the APFT in the 17-21 and that's my running routine - except I run 6-7 miles every other night and that's definitely something you can work up to.

If you want to improve push ups, work on your form. Try to do 20 good ones, rest 2 minutes, then 15 good ones with proper form. Rest 2 more minutes and do 10 good ones. Rest 2 and then 5 p.u.s If you can, do this morning and night. Every three days add one p.u. to each set. You'll get your score up.

The goal of every soldier should be 300+ and not simply to pass. Again, you have to work at it but it's something you need to get used to. Good luck if you ship to BCT. By the way, where are you going? I hope not Benning.

[aaronsz05]

Leonard Wood but i think my situation with the guard is different. I think i get extended time since when i sign up im already officially apart apart of the guard and actually drill with them. i think they would have to "council" me and then drop me if i dont show improvement. But if i was apart of DEP for reserve or active i would get dropped after 365 days since you arent really officially apart of it until you complete your training. who knows ill have to talk about this at drill this coming week

[DRTDEVL]

Originally Posted by aaronsz05

Im over the standard weight test and cant pass the Assessment 1 min situp and pushup and 1.5 mile run test at my drill station.

Originally Posted by aaronsz05

Actually drtdevil i can do 41 pushups and 31 situps in a minute but its just my run that is a little hard. if you were going to be **** you shouldnt have posted in the first place you idiot. what the hell have you done in the military? Go get a job you fag

Not what you said in your original post...

What have I done? Hmm.. I hold 4 MOSs, I have served for 11 years, I am an NCO, and I passed my PT test every time.

I have also been awarded 7 medals (most were multiple awards totalling 15 medals/oak leaf clusters), 3 service ribbons, Gold Recruiting Badge, driver's badge (x18), and qualified expert on the M-16 and M-4 rifles, M-2 and M-240(B) machine guns, grenade and M203 grenade launcher, and M-249 SAW. I have been to Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, U.A.E., Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, Germany, Belgium, France, Japan, Korea, and 49 States.

I currently have a job... US Army Recruiter. I deal with lazy little pukes like you every day. Only difference is that the ones who can't pass an event get to spend extra time with me at the local park. We meet 6 days a week at 0530, and I run the piss out of them.

I have yet to have a Recruit fail the PFA prior to shipping, and we are currently shipping 80% of all personnel within 21 days of enlistment.

You have a few days to rectify your situation, and redeem yourself. Get off the computer, and GO FOR A FREEKING RUN! Put some plastic wrap around your stomach to sweat out the water from your beer belly, and make sure you drink plenty of water while doing so. Then, get in the gym and do some upper-body weight training. You need to build up your kneck and shoulders. This will lower your tape results, and you will be able to ship.

I still wonder how you can miss your tape when the standard was changed 4 weeks ago to allow 2% more body fat content? What did you do all year?

[aaronsz05]

why would you want to criticize me instead of encouraging me..seems like thats what you did in your first post...youre a representative of the US armed forces so why would you want to make youself look like an ahole..i just didnt want any problems i was just asking a question

[runnin4freedom]

hey dude make a personal note here. the military is filled with ****s like DRTDEVL, do you really wanna be apart of an organization that belittle's you and looks down on you all the time? think long and hard before you actually do this man, its nothing that its cracked up to be.

[DRTDEVL]

Originally Posted by aaronsz05

why would you want to criticize me instead of encouraging me..seems like thats what you did in your first post...youre a representative of the US armed forces so why would you want to make youself look like an ahole..i just didnt want any problems i was just asking a question

Because you have failed to obey the very first directive (order) you were given... You had 11 months to attain the PT standards, and had to maintain your body fat content during the same time. If you were already done with all of your training, you would get the same reaction... Only it would be called Chaptered Out for either entry level conduct and performance, failure to maintain, or just plain overweight.

Think about it... We are asking you to run 440 meters 4 times, and giving you more than 2 minutes to complete each 440 meter stretch (1 lap around track). Break it down like that. Think to yourself that you want to complete the first lap by 1:30, the second by 3:15, the third by 5:15, and the fourth by 7:30... Those laps were just completed in 1:30, 1:45, 2:00 and 2:15, and gave you a 1 minute buffer.

You have also been asked to maintain your weight at or below the weight on the day you initially enlisted... You made the standard then, but now you don't... Even though the standard was relaxed by 2%. You have gained at least 2% more body fat since signing, and you want encouragement? It is too late for those methods anymore... Time for drastic measures. YOU SHOULD BE PISSED! Adrenaline helps to motivate you to accomplish the physical task at hand, but the negative connotations used to derive the end result tend to hurt feelings. Get used to it.

[aaronsz05]

if youre still going to be a ***** than whatever you ****ing ****** go get it up the ass like you probably do in the shower

[DRTDEVL]

Maybe we are all better off this way.

You just go ahead... Keep that hot little head of yours. The DS will enjoy helping you with that.