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Old 05-11-2006, 06:57 PM
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Being Forced out of the CG for Whistleblowing


What is the name of your state? FL

I've was recently stationed on a patrol boat. I initially had some personality conflict with my department head. She was the type that really didn't care about anything unless it directly affected her. She would constantly undermine me when it came to our "non-rates". I was second down from her in the deck department chain of command. Needless to say the conflict continued over several months with the command generating tons of paperwork that was inflated at best. It got so bad that personnel in other departments felt that they could walk all over me, taking my subordinates and tasking them. When I would complain to the XO, I was told that I was "uncooperative". In January, another crewmember of equal rank lashed out at me verbally while I was in conversation with my supervisor. He called me every name under the sun and completely disrespected me in front of my subordinates. My supervisor rolled her eyes and walked out. When I brought this to the attention of the command, they held an E-5 and above meeting moderated by the XO. This meeting was to constructively deal with the situation that occured. This quickly turned personal against me, while I stood there getting torn down by my shipmates, both my supervisor and the XO literally stared at their boots.
Before this meeting was called I decided that it was a good time to relay to the XO some information I had recieved from my subordinates. I was informed of an inappropriate sexual relationship the very same person who had instigated this fight was having with his subordinate. I passed this info to the XO and his response to me was, "I don't want to hear about that."
Three days later I was placed on performance probation. I didn't recognize their probation and have been fighting it for three months. The documentation got so ridiculous I sought help outside the chain of command. The XO told me that the only way I was leaving the ship would be to get discharged. One month later after going TAD to an ashore unit and having absolutely no problems I was handed recommendation for discharge paperwork.
I have tried going through the Command Master Chief and numerous others. I'm currently looking at filing a complaint under Article 138 of the UCMJ. If anyone knows how to properly write one up I would certainly appreciate it. If anyone has any other advice I would appreciate that as well.
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:54 PM
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I didn't recognize their probation and have been fighting it for three months. The documentation got so ridiculous I sought help outside the chain of command.

Who did you contact (other than us) outside of your chain of command? Have you spoke to JAG?
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Old 05-12-2006, 08:35 PM
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And if you got no response from the CMC, what did the Gold Badge have to say? If you got no help from him either, what did the office of MCPOCG have to say?

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Old 05-13-2006, 11:33 AM
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I tried going through the CMC and to no avail. There is only one at the Sector. I'm not sure what a Gold Badge is. I've gone through EAP as well. I've spoken with the CAPT. at medical. I spoke with the Logistics LTJG and the LCDR who is his supervisor and in charge of all this. I'm awaiting a response to my request for assistance from Navy Legal. Currently, I am filing a Civil rights complaint for hostile work Environment and unfair application of standards. So, we'll have to see where it goes. Coast Guard Chain of Command is rather limited. It's obviously not as large as the other branches, so sometimes it can be tough if one doesn't know where to look.
Also, I was unaware that it was appropriate to contact the MCPOCG. I figured I would really get my you-know-what slammed if I did that.

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Old 05-14-2006, 12:03 AM
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The Gold Badge is the Command Master Chief for the District. That is where you should go if you had no response from the guy at Sector. IF, and only IF you get no assistance from the CMC at District, then you go to MCPOCG. It is entirely appropriate in that circumstance, and they won't slam you for it.

FYI, they are called Gold Badges because their CMC badge is gold. The Sector CMC wears a silver badge, I believe.

I don't know anything about the command structure of DOD, only the CG.

Incidentally, it isn't really "whistle blowing" to report someone for Frat, but it sounds like the circumstances under which you did it will make them see it as "retaliation" on your part, which is probably why you were blown off.

Good luck.
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Old 06-12-2006, 02:12 AM
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I've was recently stationed on a patrol boat. I initially had some personality conflict with my department head. She was the type that really didn't care about anything unless it directly affected her (normal human behavior). She would constantly undermine me when it came to our "non-rates". I was second down from her (she outranked you) in the deck department chain of command. Needless to say the conflict continued over several months with the command generating tons of paperwork that was inflated at best. (right here stop .... did you deal with it on first blow ? ooops. the paperwork had to have something you either could admit to or prove wrong ....)

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There are some very important pieces of information missing here.
What did you have a "personality" conflict about?
Here's the thing .... some people are really in charge and some people are not in charge but every body listens to them for some reason or another ... it's called informal influencers .... they are every where you work. Make friends with them.
Ussually there is a reason why they can influence the masses against you ... often its for good reason ... a quality that for some reason rallies people behind them...
In this case it seems like you p'd off one of those informal influencers and the whole ship sank with you.
Personal conflicts is a general term for "I don't want to face what I did wrong ...." the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
You're not evil for getting into it with the wrong person. You're just feeling the pain of it ... happens to the best of us. Before I'd tell you what you can do to defend yourself on a pending discharge, I think its important to figure out why the hell everyone agreed with her and not you? Hard stuff ... but figuring this out would probably save you some heartache in the future. Next step would be to visit the Area Defense Counsel ... lawyers for the servicemember in every command .... they will help you evaluate the events and tell you what your options are. It's confidential or they get in big trouble. Plus they like to tick off the lawyers who get to do the work where people believe in them!
Anyhow ... discharge says something serious to me ... if its mental .... don't fret its service connected and you'll probly get some bennies from it and probly a good job. As long as youre not getting a dishonerable or article 15 ... you're good to go and watch who you p off. Good luck
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