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Old 12-19-2005, 11:10 PM
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Consequences to false info on enlistment form


What is the name of your state? Washington

My son enlisted in the Marines 2 years ago. He is a Lance Corporal with a great record in the Marines. He did not tell the Marines that he had tried drugs (meth) and was hospitalized for 48 hours observation. A deep background investigation discovered the hospital stay (he is in security). I know he will loose his clearance, what are the other consequences he is likely to face?

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Old 12-20-2005, 06:43 AM
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What is the name of your state? Washington

My son enlisted in the Marines 2 years ago. He is a Lance Corporal with a great record in the Marines. He did not tell the Marines that he had tried drugs (meth) and was hospitalized for 48 hours observation. A deep background investigation discovered the hospital stay (he is in security). I know he will loose his clearance, what are the other consequences he is likely to face?

Thank you
History of substance abuse may disqualify a recruit for enlistment. Waivers are available, but most likely would have affected what mos he got, instead he lied. Ask your son what the consequences are, they are a lot more serious that losing his security clearance. You may want to retain civilian counsel for your son, one with military experience.

The disqualifying medical conditions are listed below. The International Classification of Disease (ICD) codes are listed in parentheses following each standard.

The causes for rejection for appointment, enlistment, and induction are:

a. Alcohol dependence (303).

b. Drug dependence (304).

c. Non–dependent use of drugs characterized by—

(1) The evidence of use of any controlled hallucinogenic, or other intoxicating substance at time of examination (305), when the use cannot be accounted for as the result of a prescription of a physician.

(2) Documented misuse or abuse of any controlled substance (including cannabinoids or anabolic steroids) requiring professional care (305).

(3) The repeated self-procurement and self-administration of any drug or chemical substance, including cannabinoids or anabolic steroids, with such frequency that it appears that the applicant has accepted the use of or reliance on these substances as part of his or her pattern of behavior (305).

d. The use of LSD (305.3) within a 2-year period of the examination (Note: The use of any illegal drug, other than marijuna, regardless of time-frame is permamently disqualifying for the Air Force).

e. Alcohol abuse (305), use of alcoholic beverages that leads to misconduct, unacceptable social behavior, poor work or academic performance, impaired physical or mental health, lack of financial responsibility, or a disrupted personal relationship.

Note: The above are the medical standards only. Each of the services also have additional criteria that fall under their moral standards, and a separate waiver may be required.

Derived from Department of Defense (DOD) Directive 6130.3, Physical Standards for Appointment, Enlistment, and Induction, and DOD Instruction 6130.4, Criteria and Procedure Requirements for Physical Standards for Appointment, Enlistment, or Induction in the Armed Forces.
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Old 12-20-2005, 08:49 AM
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I know he will loose his clearance, what are the other consequences he is likely to face?
And the REAL answer is... no one can answer what he is LIKELY to face.... that is entirely up to his commanding officer and a JAG review.
What COULD he face??
Anything from restriction/revocation of his clearance... to a court martial and sentence and/or discharge.

For more:
[url]http://www.military.com/Recruiting/Content/0,13898,rec_step07_DQ_alcohol_drug,,00.html[/url]
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