Does anything happen to deserters?

[Raine19]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylvania
My daughter's "soon to be x husband" married her in May and went AWOL in August. Here we are in February and NOTHING has happened to him. Does the U.S. Army just forget about the loosers?

[ERAUPIKE]

I understand your frustration but you need to understand the logistics behind chasing these cowards across the four corners of the U.S. I know it isn't much but you can rest assured that eventually his actions will reap dire consequences.

[girightslawyer]

Who is to say a deserter is a coward? Seriously, it takes a lot of guts to do that.

But, to answer the original question, the answer depends on the circumstances. I need more information to be able to answer your question in particular. Every situation is fairly different.

[Raine19]

He was doing EXCELLENT, he was at West Pointe teaching others. He just plain decided that he didn't want to be there anymore and left. He's not 22, he's 35. He left my daughter high and dry pregnant with there 3rd child. He was trying to use a "compassionate discharge" due to there daughter having a brain tumor. His commander told him there's nothing he can do and I agree. If he's so compassionate, why doesn't he send money, formula, diapers etc.
He sends nothing! He was so upset that my daughter wanted to divorce him he called children & youth services. He emailed my daughter and told her that he will do anything and everything he can to get the kids in foster care so that he won't have to pay child support.
WTF?

[ERAUPIKE]

Originally Posted by girightslawyer

Who is to say a deserter is a coward? Seriously, it takes a lot of guts to do that.

But, to answer the original question, the answer depends on the circumstances. I need more information to be able to answer your question in particular. Every situation is fairly different.

As a veteran I can say that being a deserter is the unequivocal definition of an act of cowardice. You will find that your facilitation of this breach of the UCMJ and soft handed treatment of these types will put you in the extreme minority. Up to this point I have ignored your liberal unqualified ramblings but this post crosses the line. Please stop posting your irresponsible and unethical opinions on this board. You are obviously not qualified to offer such advice and you should not represent yourself in such a way. You are going to make a bad situation much worse by trying to externalize the responsibilities these cowards have ran away from.

Raine, I am sorry that your daughter has had to endure that nightmare from such a poor excuse for a man.

[Raine19]

Thank you very much for your kind response. I beg to differ, but I DO NOT refer to him as a man, but a coward! My son just returned from his 2nd tour in Iraq, now THAT'S a man. I hope that "some day real soon" he gets caught and they throw him in military jail and OOPS lost the key.
Thanks you for being a Veteran and protecting me.
Raine

[ERAUPIKE]

Originally Posted by girightslawyer

Who is to say a deserter is a coward? Seriously, it takes a lot of guts to do that.

But, to answer the original question, the answer depends on the circumstances. I need more information to be able to answer your question in particular. Every situation is fairly different.

U.S.C. Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 67, Section 1381

Enticing desertion and harboring deserters

Whoever entices or procures, or attempts or endeavors to entice
or procure any person in the Armed Forces of the United States, or
who has been recruited for service therein, to desert therefrom, or
aids any such person in deserting or in attempting to desert from
such service; or
Whoever harbors, conceals, protects, or assists any such person
who may have deserted from such service, knowing him to have
deserted therefrom, or refuses to give up and deliver such person
on the demand of any officer authorized to receive him -
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three
years, or both.

Keep up with your B.S. and I will be sure to report you girights.

[mlane58]

Originally Posted by ERAUPIKE

U.S.C. Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 67, Section 1381

Enticing desertion and harboring deserters

Whoever entices or procures, or attempts or endeavors to entice
or procure any person in the Armed Forces of the United States, or
who has been recruited for service therein, to desert therefrom, or
aids any such person in deserting or in attempting to desert from
such service; or
Whoever harbors, conceals, protects, or assists any such person
who may have deserted from such service, knowing him to have
deserted therefrom, or refuses to give up and deliver such person
on the demand of any officer authorized to receive him -
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three
years, or both.

Keep up with your B.S. and I will be sure to report you girights.

WOW Big talk and threats----who are you going to report girights to and for what? I do believe he has a right to his opinion and who are you to say he is unqualified?

[ERAUPIKE]

Originally Posted by mlane58

WOW Big talk and threats----who are you going to report girights to and for what? I do believe he has a right to his opinion and who are you to say he is unqualified?

As a senior member I would think that you would have been able to read and interpret the Federal law I posted. Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and the constitution grants us the right to voice that opinion. His opinion on this site has been close if not a toe over of breaking the law that I posted. I know that you senior members often get bored and try to incite argument for the sake of argument but in this case you are just being petty and somewhat pretentious. You forget that the right to an opinion goes both ways and it is my opinion that he is a joke and unqualified to give legal advice. Funny how that works.

[mlane58]

Originally Posted by ERAUPIKE

As a senior member I would think that you would have been able to read and interpret the Federal law I posted. Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and the constitution grants us the right to voice that opinion. His opinion on this site has been close if not a toe over of breaking the law that I posted. I know that you senior members often get bored and try to incite argument for the sake of argument but in this case you are just being petty and somewhat pretentious. You forget that the right to an opinion goes both ways and it is my opinion that he is a joke and unqualified to give legal advice. Funny how that works.

Really? Explain how he is even coming close to breaking the law, when all he asked for was more information. Seeing how he is a practicing attorney in this area of law, what are your qualifications to discount his? Maybe you need to tone down your arrogant attitude.

[ERAUPIKE]

Originally Posted by mlane58

Really? Explain how he is even coming close to breaking the law, when all he asked for was more information. Seeing how he is a practicing attorney in this area of law, what are your qualifications to discount his? Maybe you need to tone down your arrogant attitude.

I can say he is unqualified because I know that he is giving false hope to individuals who don't have a snowballs chance of actually accomplishing what he is talking about. Girights is a coddling liberal who has no place in this forum and neither do you. Anyone who would canonize a deserter needs a real wake up call from those of us who have answered the call to service.

I will not respond to anymore of your posts as you have nothing constructive to add to this forum.

[mlane58]

Originally Posted by ERAUPIKE

I can say he is unqualified because I know that he is giving false hope to individuals who don't have a snowballs chance of actually accomplishing what he is talking about. Girights is a coddling liberal who has no place in this forum and neither do you. Anyone who would canonize a deserter needs a real wake up call from those of us who have answered the call to service.

I will not respond to anymore of your posts as you have nothing constructive to add to this forum.

What a blatant idiot you are to make assumptions on nothing you know. Keep your politics at home, this isn't the place for it. It's a site for people seeking legal opinons based on professional experience. None of the posts I read from girightslawyer canonize anyone, nor do they project the liberalism you profess--you are just a fanatic! Oh and by the way, before you start bashing my patriotism, I served honorably and retired after 21 years in the military. So take a couple of your meds before your face turns too red and you have an anumrism.

[Raine19]

You are an IDIOT!
He's telling you the LAWS of the Military. Deserters deserve to be put in a jail cell and the key thrown away. Did they NOT know what they were signing up for? Our country is at WAR! My son spent 2 tours in Iraq. He KNEW what he signed up for. Was I scared? You bet your life I was. He told me NEVER to watch CNN. Every email or phone call I received was a Blessing.
My soon to be X son in law is a COWARD!
He married my daugher in May and deserted in August. Left her high & dry!
No money, no diapers, no formula Zippo Zero!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he truly deserves to rot in HELL!

[mlane58]

Originally Posted by Raine19

You are an IDIOT!
He's telling you the LAWS of the Military. Deserters deserve to be put in a jail cell and the key thrown away. Did they NOT know what they were signing up for? Our country is at WAR! My son spent 2 tours in Iraq. He KNEW what he signed up for. Was I scared? You bet your life I was. He told me NEVER to watch CNN. Every email or phone call I received was a Blessing.
My soon to be X son in law is a COWARD!
He married my daugher in May and deserted in August. Left her high & dry!
No money, no diapers, no formula Zippo Zero!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he truly deserves to rot in HELL!

Yet another fanatic. Who are you to call me an idiot? You have no idea why he deserted do you? Lets see, the number of GI's that are committing suicide is higher then it has ever been, PSTD is ruining the lives of GI's and their families, but you sit back and want to bash an attorney who believes as is written in the constitution that this guy is entitled to a defense. Do you have any idea what he might be going through? Of course not, you don't care. Not everything is black and white. Not one person on this thread doesn't feel some sorrow for your daughter, but that doesn't give you or the other ....the right to start bashing and belittling others.

[>Charlotte<]

I know exactly how hard it is to wait for a loved one to come back from a deployment, and how hard we all pray that they come back in one piece. I can't adequately express the pride I feel for my husband and my son, or the disappointment I feel for those that have chosen to desert.

With that being said, mlane is absolutely right.

Raine19, do you have anything substantive to add, or are you just going to stick with "shriek like a howler monkey"?

You might disagree with her--I've disagreed with her myself--but she is not an idiot.