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Old 03-31-2005, 03:14 AM
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Enlistment as a MINOR, PLEASE HELP ME

I was sort of persuaded into enlisting into the military. A recruiter talked to me when I was 16 and again when I turned 17. Although I took intrest in it before, Its not how i want my life to play out. I didn't really understand what i wanted to do with my life until i was finishing up my senior year. I'm in a great relationship now and have a different outlook on life and have completely different goals. I'm aware that contracts with minors (i'm still 17) are not necessarily enforced in civilian law, and i was wondring if there was any way to back out after i took my oath of enlistment. August 16th, 2005 is the date i leave home and i'm wondering if there is any way to not go. Please help me because my life changed allot since the recruiter first spoke to me. And I live in New Jersey
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:44 AM
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Did your parents also sign it? In any event, you can tell them you are no longer interested and they have to let you out of it. Call the recruiter, and tell them you want out and don't let them talk you out of it.
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:25 AM
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Having been a military recruiter for 15 years, your initial oath is dor the delayed enlistment program and yes you can get out of it very easily just by telling the recruiter and again don't let him talk you out of it.
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:57 PM
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what they said above is true, but i just wanted to point out that, when your 17 and sign a contract with the military.. it is legally binding....unlike in the civilian world.....where you cant be held to a contract till your 18
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Old 04-04-2005, 01:03 AM
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At 17 your parent have to sign the paperwork in order for you to enlist. If they did not tell your recruiter your not interested. You are allowed to change your mind before you go back to MEPS before departure. Its only after your second oath that you cannot go back.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:04 PM
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same here

OMG, I have the exact same situation. I even ship out on the exact same day!!! I'm also thinking about getting out because I heard that even though I have a contract for 91 X (mental health specialist) a lot of times they sign people up as doctors, train them up as doctors, but then send them to Iraq like infantry with a gun after AIT and I noticed that my recruiter refused to tell me anything about what would happen to me after AIT other than "then you will go to wherever your first post is" and said "I dont know what you'll be doing there, I dont know much about the medical fields" and I noticed my contract only guarantees I will be trained as a 91X, but it doesn't promise what I will do after AIT. Could the recruiter of 15 yrs answer the question on wether this really happens or not? I couldn't imagine having to tell my friends and family that I'm not actually going to the military, and that I'm backing down after having signed up and all.
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:44 PM
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At 17 your parent have to sign the paperwork in order for you to enlist. If they did not tell your recruiter your not interested. You are allowed to change your mind before you go back to MEPS before departure. Its only after your second oath that you cannot go back.
We live in Texas and are now in this situation. My daughter is 17 and went to MEPS and was sworn in to the army reserves. Her recruiter's boss is saying he won't let her out of her contract. Her leave date is May 25. She is a junior in high school. I did sign for permission. She has only been sworn in one time. Can she change her mind and get out without a hassle from the recruiters? PLEASE HELP! Time is running out!
Thanks for any and all help! Linda K.
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Old 05-05-2006, 10:12 PM
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We live in Texas and are now in this situation. My daughter is 17 and went to MEPS and was sworn in to the army reserves. Her recruiter's boss is saying he won't let her out of her contract. Her leave date is May 25. She is a junior in high school. I did sign for permission. She has only been sworn in one time. Can she change her mind and get out without a hassle from the recruiters? PLEASE HELP! Time is running out!
Thanks for any and all help! Linda K.
She was sworn into the delayed enlistment program right?

As my ole friend the pizza guy SR. said "tell them to fugedaboutit"

Here is another link for you to read that covers this subject [url]http://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=313049[/url]

Recruiters are notorious, but geez a junior in high school?

They gonna hit elementary school students next? Or maybe the maternity wards at the local hospitals.

Good Luck
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Old 05-05-2006, 10:26 PM
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OMG, I have the exact same situation. I even ship out on the exact same day!!! I'm also thinking about getting out because I heard that even though I have a contract for 91 X (mental health specialist) a lot of times they sign people up as doctors, train them up as doctors, but then send them to Iraq like infantry with a gun after AIT and I noticed that my recruiter refused to tell me anything about what would happen to me after AIT other than "then you will go to wherever your first post is" and said "I dont know what you'll be doing there, I dont know much about the medical fields" and I noticed my contract only guarantees I will be trained as a 91X, but it doesn't promise what I will do after AIT. Could the recruiter of 15 yrs answer the question on wether this really happens or not? I couldn't imagine having to tell my friends and family that I'm not actually going to the military, and that I'm backing down after having signed up and all.
Do you really think they will train you in mental health, then send you into Iraq as an infantryman? Get real. The Army is about to spend a lot of money training you in mental health. There is a lot of PTSD out there to deal with, and we need all the mental health personnel we can train to help deal with it.

BTW: I was a Recruiter from 2002-2005... Does that count?

And about the posting about the Junior in High School: That's only available in the Reserves. They send them to BCT the summer prior to their senior year, then they are allowed to drill their senior year (with pay). They are non-deployable (almost worthless) until after they complete their AIT (the next summer). The reason for this program is to allow a senior in high school to have the BCT experience behind them, and they can tell their peers all about it.
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that's like saying robbing a doughnut shop is entrapment.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:45 AM
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Do you really think they will train you in mental health, then send you into Iraq as an infantryman? Get real. The Army is about to spend a lot of money training you in mental health. There is a lot of PTSD out there to deal with, and we need all the mental health personnel we can train to help deal with it.

BTW: I was a Recruiter from 2002-2005... Does that count?

And about the posting about the Junior in High School: That's only available in the Reserves. They send them to BCT the summer prior to their senior year, then they are allowed to drill their senior year (with pay). They are non-deployable (almost worthless) until after they complete their AIT (the next summer). The reason for this program is to allow a senior in high school to have the BCT experience behind them, and they can tell their peers all about it.
Okay, but the point is, she no longer wants to be in the reserves or the army or any kind of military. As The Pizza Guy said, can we tell them to "fugedaboutit"?
And Thanks, Pizza Guy! Yes, it is the delayed program, but they did swear her in once at MEPS. So you're SURE???? God, I pray you're right!
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Old 05-07-2006, 07:42 AM
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So, he is right.

The best way to get this documented (and fast) is to send a letter to the recruiting station, attention: COMPANY Commander (not station commander) via Certified Mail, return receipt requested. They are required to sign for it, and report it's contents to the CO.

Once the letter has been received, they have little options remaining. They will try to convince the DEP to ship out, but have nothing to back it up, other than empty threats. Remember, though, that the name remains on a list of people found fit for duty, so anything is possible in the future. The current policy is to release all DEPs from their contracts. They *will* require a waiver for any future enlistment options, and many change their mind, coming back at a later date.
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that's like saying robbing a doughnut shop is entrapment.
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Old 05-07-2006, 09:26 AM
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So, he is right.

The best way to get this documented (and fast) is to send a letter to the recruiting station, attention: COMPANY Commander (not station commander) via Certified Mail, return receipt requested. They are required to sign for it, and report it's contents to the CO.

Once the letter has been received, they have little options remaining. They will try to convince the DEP to ship out, but have nothing to back it up, other than empty threats. Remember, though, that the name remains on a list of people found fit for duty, so anything is possible in the future. The current policy is to release all DEPs from their contracts. They *will* require a waiver for any future enlistment options, and many change their mind, coming back at a later date.
Sorry, quote is the only way I see to reply! I thank you for your information. The reply that the pizza guy posted had a link which had the GI Rights Hotline. I called that (guess they don't operate on weekends), left message with particulars. This morning I looked up GI Rights on the internet and found basically what you are telling me, except it didn't mention to send the letter certified mail. That's a good idea. Thanks for mentioning it! We don't have to put a return address do we? I may have daughter send a copy regular mail also and an email with attachment of the GI Rights page referring to getting out of DEP. I really appreciate the help and direction in this! God Bless You All! Linda K.
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Old 05-07-2006, 02:48 PM
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They already have your address... And they *will* know who sent it.

Go ahead and put it on there...
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that's like saying robbing a doughnut shop is entrapment.
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Old 05-07-2006, 07:23 PM
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Okay, I was just thinking, if they know who sent it, they may not accept it so they can say they never got it. But we will cover as many bases as possible. Thanks again for all your help! Linda K.
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Old 05-08-2006, 12:17 AM
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They already have your address... And they *will* know who sent it.

Go ahead and put it on there...
DRTDEVIL

"Once the letter has been received, they have little options remaining. They will try to convince the DEP to ship out, but have nothing to back it up, other than empty threats. Remember, though, that the name remains on a list of people found fit for duty, so anything is possible in the future. The current policy is to release all DEPs from their contracts. They *will* require a waiver for any future enlistment options, and many change their mind, coming back at a later date"

Of course they do. You enjoy working for the machine that enjoys knowing everything about everybody don't you? Sounds like 1984

DRTDVL Come on a seventeen year old and a Junior in HIGH school! You should be ashamed of yourself. Fit for duty...
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