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Old 10-26-2007, 08:30 PM
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Going AWOL for 2 weeks?


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Time in: 1.5 yrs
clean record with positive counseling statements

I am currently being chaptered out of the army for problems back home under a 5-17. I am in rear detachment pending chapter. My wife that lives in another country recently attempted suicide. She was hospitalized and released for close monitoring in out patient. I received 2 red cross messages but my command doesn't want to let me go see her. I was going to bring her back with me because of her mental state. My command said the letters do not state that her doctor is requesting my presence. .The second letter was written by the doctor stating that the letters intention was to help bring me to her country on leave. The letter said that she is getting better because she thinks i might be able to come see her. Leave was not granted. They want me to stay here to finish my chapter. I have a phase 2 physical next week.

She needs help in her country finishing up lose ends and my support in her mental state as she is still a risk. I don't know what to do. I was thinking about leaving for two weeks to help her and bring her back here and turning myself in. What would the penalties be for that amount of time? I thought about going to IG but if they say no aswell then I just put heat on my command and they will be less forgiving when I do this. Can anyone make a good recommendation? I really do not want to go awol but it feels like my back is against the wall.

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Old 10-26-2007, 11:02 PM
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NY
Army
Time in: 1.5 yrs
clean record with positive counseling statements

I am currently being chaptered out of the army for problems back home under a 5-17. I am in rear detachment pending chapter. My wife that lives in another country recently attempted suicide. She was hospitalized and released for close monitoring in out patient. I received 2 red cross messages but my command doesn't want to let me go see her. I was going to bring her back with me because of her mental state. My command said the letters do not state that her doctor is requesting my presence. .The second letter was written by the doctor stating that the letters intention was to help bring me to her country on leave. The letter said that she is getting better because she thinks i might be able to come see her. Leave was not granted. They want me to stay here to finish my chapter. I have a phase 2 physical next week.

She needs help in her country finishing up lose ends and my support in her mental state as she is still a risk. I don't know what to do. I was thinking about leaving for two weeks to help her and bring her back here and turning myself in. What would the penalties be for that amount of time? I thought about going to IG but if they say no aswell then I just put heat on my command and they will be less forgiving when I do this. Can anyone make a good recommendation? I really do not want to go awol but it feels like my back is against the wall.
You are being chaptered out, that means you already have problems in the making. 5-17 what is that? What did you do to get chaptered out?

Going AWOL for 2 weeks is one thing if you have nothing else outstanding. Don't get me wrong. I am NOT advising you to go AWOL, but if you did you can expect an article 15 at the company grade level (not a good thing but far from the end of the world)

If you are planning on going AWOL while there are charges and such against you. Well then I would plan on returning to a court martial and lots of life long problems that will be associated with that court martial.
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:01 AM
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the 5-17 is a mental discharge. Failure to adapt almost. I have no charges against me. My record is clean. Was thinking about the option of public trial to state my reasons on my return. Isn't that possible?

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Old 10-27-2007, 09:46 AM
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In addition to what Cyberspook shared, I offer this: You are being processed out,
correct. Then, why not share this with your wife that you are once and for all
being discharged, and that it will not be much longer for you two to be together.
Or are you thinking that Uncle Sam will pay for her to come to the United States
while you are being Chaptered out, if so, forget about it. Lastly, I reiterate what
Cyberspook shared, in that if you go UA, then you will most definitely face a
Court Martial which in return, will mean more severe punishment, and more time
away from your wife!
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:39 PM
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She needs help in her country finishing up lose ends and my support in her mental state as she is still a risk.
That ment suicide risk. She's not all there. I'm using my own dollar. I've been working with my chain of command for a month about this subject.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:46 PM
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She needs help in her country finishing up lose ends and my support in her mental state as she is still a risk.
That meant suicide risk. She's not all there. She does know about my chapter. But that will be months from now. I'm using my own dollar. I've been working with my chain of command for a month about this subject. Then I hear a flat out no for no reason. I am serving no purpose now. I'm just a number for accountability. I'm sure I can negotiate my punishment on return with my chain of command. Cause after all I'm a number and product. They will want accountability of they're product, right?

One of my questions i do have the option of public hearing for my punishment to state the reasoning for my actions correct? I'm talking being gone 2 weeks. And no Cyberspook did not say court martial. He said if I have ucmj pending against me; Then I can expect a court martial. As I stated. my record is clean and in good standing.

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Old 10-27-2007, 01:08 PM
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You stated that the American Red Cross tried to help, and that did not work.
Normally these are the folks that help in getting a soldier home for a five
day emergency leave usually because of the death of a very close family
member.

We feel for you; and no it will not take months to chapter you out,
given that the process has already started. Likewise, if you go UA, then
you are talking about months. Go speak with your Chaplin, and Top
about what is taking place. Hang in there troop.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:24 PM
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You stated that the American Red Cross tried to help, and that did not work.
Normally these are the folks that help in getting a soldier home for a five
day emergency leave usually because of the death of a very close family
member.

We feel for you; and no it will not take months to chapter you out,
given that the process has already started. Likewise, if you go UA, then
you are talking about months. Go speak with your Chaplin, and Top
about what is taking place. Hang in there troop.
I would give my senators office a call.
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