how to get seperated/discharged?

[shakazulu]

What is the name of your state? WA

I am a marine infantrymen seeking to get out of the armed services. I really disagree with what the military does now... considering my "senior marines" are 18 year old alcoholics... making them younger than me and also less educated. The stories they tell about what really goes on is motivating for some of the other marines here, but not me. None of the stories sound like anything like what I wanted to join... the whole honor courage committment thing. But that is kind of beside the point... plain and simple I want out for my own reasons.

Something that I did try doing was maybe getting discharged at ITB for having completely flat feet... but the corpsman and physical therapist didn't want to even talk to me about flat feet. I had arches before the military and now they are completely non-existent. It does cause lots of discomfort and some pain in my lower extremeties... mostly my knees and shins. I haven't talked to anyone in my unit about it. Is there any possibility of being medically discharged for flat feet?

Also, as a last resort I have thought about going UA... but I really don't know the success rate on that. I would want to be gone long enough that they couldn't use me anymore, and turn myself in so I could stop looking over my shoulder... and get a discharge. Any advice or suggestions?

[cyberspook]

Originally Posted by shakazulu

What is the name of your state? WA

I am a marine infantrymen seeking to get out of the armed services. I really disagree with what the military does now... considering my "senior marines" are 18 year old alcoholics... making them younger than me and also less educated. The stories they tell about what really goes on is motivating for some of the other marines here, but not me. None of the stories sound like anything like what I wanted to join... the whole honor courage committment thing. But that is kind of beside the point... plain and simple I want out for my own reasons.

Something that I did try doing was maybe getting discharged at ITB for having completely flat feet... but the corpsman and physical therapist didn't want to even talk to me about flat feet. I had arches before the military and now they are completely non-existent. It does cause lots of discomfort and some pain in my lower extremeties... mostly my knees and shins. I haven't talked to anyone in my unit about it. Is there any possibility of being medically discharged for flat feet?

Also, as a last resort I have thought about going UA... but I really don't know the success rate on that. I would want to be gone long enough that they couldn't use me anymore, and turn myself in so I could stop looking over my shoulder... and get a discharge. Any advice or suggestions?

Don't go UA.

There is an attorney on this site that has recomended playing the "gay" card. You could give that a shot but as also previously said, if you are going to play that strategy be prepared to prove it.

Don't go UA

Umm flat feet... I don't think the military even requires a waiver for that anymore. You're going to have to do a lot better than that for a medical excuse.

Don't go UA

There is the phsycological strategy. Are you having thoughts of sucide? See where I am going with this?

Don't go UA

Search on this site, there are lots of threads regarding this. Lots of information out there.

Did I mention, don't go UA?

Good luck

[fozzy2]

If you are still in training, you could get real dumb and real physically inept in a hurry. If you can do a good job pretending like you can't read, and fail every test they give you, and if you manage to fail every single PT test and inspection-- they will tire of you and discharge you. Don't expect the process to be hassle-free, however. Your best bet - certainly don't tell anyone it is part of a plan. Just make it a point to appear to everyone to be a dumb, sloppy, unfit trainee who isn't going to be able to meet USMC standards. As I said, however,the Corps has a few "motivational tricks" up its sleeve so you have to be commited to your course of action.

[jmnixon333]

You could try your medical condition and see if it works, but I would suggest getting a marine lawyer and telling him the situation that you are in. You shouldn't have to comit a crime to get out of the military, just be up front and office and seek help there.

[shakazulu]

Well, I can't just act stupid and fail physical tests since I have an asvab score of 96, college education, and a 1st class pft. I should have been an officer honestly... but I also thought for god knows what reason that being a rifleman would be a noble thing to do.

I'm going to talk to my chaplain soon about my beef with everything in the marine corps. Well, maybe not everything, but he is a good guy and will listen.

As for flat feet, it is still a disqualifying factor for enlistment, if it is painful and causes problems. I am pretty sure that I have stress fractures and a bad case of runners knee among other things.

I think my best bet is a medical discharge, but that is far fetched... unless I push it.

[SHORTY LONG]

Marine, get your head and heart wired together, and go to sick bay.

[cyberspook]

Originally Posted by shakazulu

Well, I can't just act stupid and fail physical tests since I have an asvab score of 96, college education, and a 1st class pft. I should have been an officer honestly... but I also thought for god knows what reason that being a rifleman would be a noble thing to do.

I'm going to talk to my chaplain soon about my beef with everything in the marine corps. Well, maybe not everything, but he is a good guy and will listen.

As for flat feet, it is still a disqualifying factor for enlistment, if it is painful and causes problems. I am pretty sure that I have stress fractures and a bad case of runners knee among other things.

I think my best bet is a medical discharge, but that is far fetched... unless I push it.

An officer??? Ha Ha!!! Just what the corp. needs, an officer that contemplates going UA over an internet message board.

So you feel you are to good for MOS 0300? That because you stooped to being a NOBLE Rifleman the corp. should kiss your A$$?

Anyway you answered your own question, so there was no need for you to ask for any advice in the first place. Please do us all a favor and close this thread.

Better yet, why don't you take some more of your own advice and go UA. The Marine Corp. would love to give you the extra attention you crave then.

[Lightarms]

As for trying to get out on failing all your PT test. Good luck. Because in my MP unit they won't discharge anybody for that. They just stick them on extra PT for the rest of their time in the service until they pass the PT test or weight/tape standards. Heck they even sent this overweight guy who never passed a PT test to Iraq in my unit.

[questionia]

Cyberspook, thank you for that. The Corps does not need officers who for a moment question their desire to be there. None of the things you mention make you a Marine Corps officer. In fact, it's exactly what you have written that would have prevented that. I say that from the almost identical perspective except that when I went to Quantico I was only a junior in college.

[iescaped]

Originally Posted by cyberspook

Don't go UA.

There is an attorney on this site that has recomended playing the "gay" card. You could give that a shot but as also previously said, if you are going to play that strategy be prepared to prove it.

Don't go UA

Umm flat feet... I don't think the military even requires a waiver for that anymore. You're going to have to do a lot better than that for a medical excuse.

Don't go UA

There is the phsycological strategy. Are you having thoughts of sucide? See where I am going with this?


Don't go UA

Search on this site, there are lots of threads regarding this. Lots of information out there.

Did I mention, don't go UA?

Good luck

Great post Cyberspook.

[geoffc2]

Your post makes it sound like you are still in training, if so, here is the simple and almost foolproof way to get out. Sleepwalk!!! After letting the fireguard find you in odd places with no memory of when or how you got there, then have them sign a statement that they saw you sleepwalking. Go to sick call and bide your time. Wouldn't hurt to have a couple more documented incidences. Warning, if you get out this way you can never get back in.

[fortsillsucks]

long story short i tried many things to get out....

i actually injured myself (not self-inflicted) and had to go to physical therapy...

i broke my hand on a locker...

i tried to not do my PT tests (they used my first score which was 250)...

i spoke to the chaplain... about my suicidal thoughts....

i spoke to my chain of command about metnal issues....

i slit my wrists and carved "i ****ing hate the army" on my arm..... (which i did, main reason for getting out was all my **** was getting repossessed and i lost my fiance) (JOE D)
last but not least I went AWOL or UA.... dont do that************** i have a federal warrant right now and im not happy. my first sgt is the one who told me to go AWOL too.... what a prick...

so anyway, im turning myself in to fort sill tomorrow (tuesday)..... i'll let yall know how it goes.... but honestly, dont go AWOL... try sleepwalking..... the army will not let us go, but the USMC has higher standards, so you could get lucky.

[SHORTY LONG]

Curious to know what your interpretation of tomorrow is?