rogue_ausa
Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Texas
I first want to say that I have posted on several forums and understand, and agree, with most people with how they feel about AWOL soldiers. Second I request that if you are going to post anything about the story being a lie or he isn't telling me the truth then please don't bother. I'm here to get him help, and most of what I am posting I have personally either seen or heard directly from the military.
My husband was signed into active duty from DEP on 7/18/02. At that time he went to basic at Ft. Jackson. After completion he then went on to Carson. There his job title was 96R and was sent over to Iraq in mid 03, completing a full tour. He reported to MDs his knee issues and they ordered a Xray. When returning he was sent to Ft. Huachuca for AIT somewhere around 05, I'm not sure exactly on when. While there he recieved paper orders to go to Campbell after training. Both is old and new unit was scheduled to be deployed again so he wanted to go with his old unit again vs going with a unit he was unfamilar with. He emailed a Sgt. Coppi to have his orders changed back. Using his military email Sgt. Coppi responded with that it was taken care of. After completion of his AIT and passing his PT his knee started to swell to the point he could no longer walk and apparently he was suppose to get excused from the running portion of the PT test due to the issue, however since he didn't get this he was in a bed for a month before he could be medically discharged. He walked out of Ft. Huachuca on crutches in 8/05 with DD214 in hand along with other separation papers. He was told he would receive separation pay for a total of 1 yr. He also signed a medical benefits waiver because they paid him more to do so and that he didn't have to register with the VA unless it continued to get worse and he could then appeal the waiver but that also long as he didn't do extensive labor his knee wouldn't progress further. In January of 06 we met on the internet and after meeting several times and spending time with his family and mine he moved to Texas to live with me and because he wasn't sure how this was going to end up he left most of his things in KC, MO. While down here his mothers cat urinated on all his things in his closet and when she moved she threw it all out, this included his DD214 (she didn't know what she was doing). In 7/06 we went to get his DL in TX because his CO DL expired and the DPS highway patrol man pulled him on a AWOL warrant. After calling around and unable to confirm it he let him go with a number to call to get it cleared up. He called the MP station at Carson and they said that all they needed was a letter of remissal from his CO unit there who was currently in Iraq. After emailing back and forth a few weeks this happened and we thought it was taken care of. Feb of this year we went to once more get his DL (no he doesn't have one he has severe issues driving and we didn't need him to have one until recently) once more and decided it might be best to call and make sure it was taken care of only to find out that he was still wanted. He called Carson MP station once more and the MP was really confused and didn't understand what was going on because he shows that he was cleared. He said he would take care of it, and this time I personally made sure it was. This past Tuesday my husband found my bother in law bashing my sisters head into the tile floor and pulled him off, subsequently getting in a fist fight with him. Police were called and when they ran my husband they found a active AWOL warrant from Ft. Campbell. I have been working very hard on trying to get this cleared up. He has been sitting in County since then. I've called Sill, Hood, Carson, Huachuca, and Campbell trying to find out who exactly is going to come get him but they all say they don't have orders to do so and because of this he has not gotten to see a attny. I also can't get a civilan lawyer to take it because of the details behind it so I've started to try and find proof. About a month ago we requested his DD214 from St. Louis and they say that they don't have it. I called the DoD to get his separation pay info and they don't show he received any and that he was DFR placed AWOL on 2/26/06. They also don't show a desertion packet on him. They don't show where he went to Iraq, or any orders however I was told its because they don't put those in the files. I've called Huachuca and the JAG ofc can't even find where he was there but I have papers in my possession from St. Louis where he graduated from AIT the first and second time. Carson shows that they cleared him based on a 190-3 but the MP didn't know what that meant and AWOL apprehention was gone until Monday. No offence to anyone at Hood but they are all *******s that refuse to tell me anything even though I have full power of attny that he signed so that I can try and get this taken care of. Out processing doesn't so anything because they only keep things for 3 years. Carson and everyone else don't show ANYTHING after Huachuca or Iraq. I've got a pay stub proving he was there with hazardous pay. Carson also had him AWOL 7/05 while he was in Huachuca for training and he is still on the list even though he is cleared. VA social worker said that this warrant was issued for a time after his ETS which was 7/17/06. Campbell is on a 4 day weekend and won't be back until Wed for me to talk to G1 there but if they are as nice as 20th replacemant command then I won't find out if they actually have the orders that he was suppose to be there or not. I found out that once things are sent to St. Louis they digitalize them and destroy the paper copies, while I understand why they would do this it is completely stupid in cases like this to physically pull the file to make sure something didn't happened. I've talked to one Master Sgt at Huachuca who said that this isn't the first time he's gotten a call like this. 2 other ppl at Campbell told me that they aren't suprised something like this has happened because Huachuca is a training facility and they don't do this type of thing that often and they should have just sent him back to Carson to get discharged properly. Instead they prob just rushed the whole thing and something happened. Those that have info either treat me like crap because they can't believe the army would make a mistake like this or they believe me but don't have access to help me. I need to know what to do. I've thought about the media but haven't because if he is lying to me and his whole family or didn't do something he was suppose to do then he might be punished more. Through all of this not a single person can say yes for a fact this is right or no this is wrong because the paper work is either missing or incomplete. I have to say its very discouraging to hear 90% of people automatically assume its true even when they don't have what they need in front of them to prove it. Any help would be appriciated.
Thank you anyone who reads this, I know it is long.
I first want to say that I have posted on several forums and understand, and agree, with most people with how they feel about AWOL soldiers. Second I request that if you are going to post anything about the story being a lie or he isn't telling me the truth then please don't bother. I'm here to get him help, and most of what I am posting I have personally either seen or heard directly from the military.
My husband was signed into active duty from DEP on 7/18/02. At that time he went to basic at Ft. Jackson. After completion he then went on to Carson. There his job title was 96R and was sent over to Iraq in mid 03, completing a full tour. He reported to MDs his knee issues and they ordered a Xray. When returning he was sent to Ft. Huachuca for AIT somewhere around 05, I'm not sure exactly on when. While there he recieved paper orders to go to Campbell after training. Both is old and new unit was scheduled to be deployed again so he wanted to go with his old unit again vs going with a unit he was unfamilar with. He emailed a Sgt. Coppi to have his orders changed back. Using his military email Sgt. Coppi responded with that it was taken care of. After completion of his AIT and passing his PT his knee started to swell to the point he could no longer walk and apparently he was suppose to get excused from the running portion of the PT test due to the issue, however since he didn't get this he was in a bed for a month before he could be medically discharged. He walked out of Ft. Huachuca on crutches in 8/05 with DD214 in hand along with other separation papers. He was told he would receive separation pay for a total of 1 yr. He also signed a medical benefits waiver because they paid him more to do so and that he didn't have to register with the VA unless it continued to get worse and he could then appeal the waiver but that also long as he didn't do extensive labor his knee wouldn't progress further. In January of 06 we met on the internet and after meeting several times and spending time with his family and mine he moved to Texas to live with me and because he wasn't sure how this was going to end up he left most of his things in KC, MO. While down here his mothers cat urinated on all his things in his closet and when she moved she threw it all out, this included his DD214 (she didn't know what she was doing). In 7/06 we went to get his DL in TX because his CO DL expired and the DPS highway patrol man pulled him on a AWOL warrant. After calling around and unable to confirm it he let him go with a number to call to get it cleared up. He called the MP station at Carson and they said that all they needed was a letter of remissal from his CO unit there who was currently in Iraq. After emailing back and forth a few weeks this happened and we thought it was taken care of. Feb of this year we went to once more get his DL (no he doesn't have one he has severe issues driving and we didn't need him to have one until recently) once more and decided it might be best to call and make sure it was taken care of only to find out that he was still wanted. He called Carson MP station once more and the MP was really confused and didn't understand what was going on because he shows that he was cleared. He said he would take care of it, and this time I personally made sure it was. This past Tuesday my husband found my bother in law bashing my sisters head into the tile floor and pulled him off, subsequently getting in a fist fight with him. Police were called and when they ran my husband they found a active AWOL warrant from Ft. Campbell. I have been working very hard on trying to get this cleared up. He has been sitting in County since then. I've called Sill, Hood, Carson, Huachuca, and Campbell trying to find out who exactly is going to come get him but they all say they don't have orders to do so and because of this he has not gotten to see a attny. I also can't get a civilan lawyer to take it because of the details behind it so I've started to try and find proof. About a month ago we requested his DD214 from St. Louis and they say that they don't have it. I called the DoD to get his separation pay info and they don't show he received any and that he was DFR placed AWOL on 2/26/06. They also don't show a desertion packet on him. They don't show where he went to Iraq, or any orders however I was told its because they don't put those in the files. I've called Huachuca and the JAG ofc can't even find where he was there but I have papers in my possession from St. Louis where he graduated from AIT the first and second time. Carson shows that they cleared him based on a 190-3 but the MP didn't know what that meant and AWOL apprehention was gone until Monday. No offence to anyone at Hood but they are all *******s that refuse to tell me anything even though I have full power of attny that he signed so that I can try and get this taken care of. Out processing doesn't so anything because they only keep things for 3 years. Carson and everyone else don't show ANYTHING after Huachuca or Iraq. I've got a pay stub proving he was there with hazardous pay. Carson also had him AWOL 7/05 while he was in Huachuca for training and he is still on the list even though he is cleared. VA social worker said that this warrant was issued for a time after his ETS which was 7/17/06. Campbell is on a 4 day weekend and won't be back until Wed for me to talk to G1 there but if they are as nice as 20th replacemant command then I won't find out if they actually have the orders that he was suppose to be there or not. I found out that once things are sent to St. Louis they digitalize them and destroy the paper copies, while I understand why they would do this it is completely stupid in cases like this to physically pull the file to make sure something didn't happened. I've talked to one Master Sgt at Huachuca who said that this isn't the first time he's gotten a call like this. 2 other ppl at Campbell told me that they aren't suprised something like this has happened because Huachuca is a training facility and they don't do this type of thing that often and they should have just sent him back to Carson to get discharged properly. Instead they prob just rushed the whole thing and something happened. Those that have info either treat me like crap because they can't believe the army would make a mistake like this or they believe me but don't have access to help me. I need to know what to do. I've thought about the media but haven't because if he is lying to me and his whole family or didn't do something he was suppose to do then he might be punished more. Through all of this not a single person can say yes for a fact this is right or no this is wrong because the paper work is either missing or incomplete. I have to say its very discouraging to hear 90% of people automatically assume its true even when they don't have what they need in front of them to prove it. Any help would be appriciated.
Thank you anyone who reads this, I know it is long.