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[ron24]

Okay,

I've been on active duty for 5 years (Navy) and I'm being discharged honorably next month. I plan on going to school and well doing a little partying along the way. I still have 2 years in the IRR. I know that there is a annual muster and they do drug test you.

I'm done with the military and don't want anything more to do with it. Is there any specific law that states I have to show up for muster and what will happen if I don't? My main concern is keeping my GI Bill. Will I lose my GI Bill if I fail to report or if I get a discharge from the IRR that is other then honorable?

My plan is well to ignore the phone calls if I receive them. Or just ignore them long enough to clean up.

Thanks in advance.

[ERAUPIKE]

Originally Posted by ron24

Okay,

I've been on active duty for 5 years (Navy) and I'm being discharged honorably next month. I plan on going to school and well doing a little partying along the way. I still have 2 years in the IRR. I know that there is a annual muster and they do drug test you.

I'm done with the military and don't want anything more to do with it. Is there any specific law that states I have to show up for muster and what will happen if I don't? My main concern is keeping my GI Bill. Will I lose my GI Bill if I fail to report or if I get a discharge from the IRR that is other then honorable?

My plan is well to ignore the phone calls if I receive them. Or just ignore them long enough to clean up.

Thanks in advance.

You will not succeed in life with this attitude. The Navy will not rescind your honorable discharge but receiving any type of drug conviction will seriously impact your life in many ways. As a student you will not be eligible for any type of additional government aid, like grants. I believe I have read that a drug related conviction will void your eligibility for the MGIB but that may not be accurate. A drug conviction will also seriously impede any effort you make to find gainful employment after graduation. You are making a seriously stupid and immature choice to destroy your mind. You are gambling with your future each time you decide to "party."

[ron24]

I understand what your saying about future employement, but you haven't answered any of my questions. I called the VA and they said that with regards to the GI Bill, as long as you are dicharged from active duty with a honorable discharge you are entitled to the GI Bill. The type of discharge you recieve from the IRR or active reserves doesn't impact your benifit.

So once again is there any law that requires you to participate in the IRR annual musters? I read that you are not subject to the UCMJ or any federal or state laws, regarding to reporting for IRR muster. This of course could just be a rumor....

[ERAUPIKE]

Originally Posted by ron24

I understand what your saying about future employement, but you haven't answered any of my questions. I called the VA and they said that with regards to the GI Bill, as long as you are dicharged from active duty with a honorable discharge you are entitled to the GI Bill. The type of discharge you recieve from the IRR or active reserves doesn't impact your benifit.

So once again is there any law that requires you to participate in the IRR annual musters? I read that you are not subject to the UCMJ or any federal or state laws, regarding to reporting for IRR muster. This of course could just be a rumor....

That is incorrect. When you are called to muster you will be subject to the UCMJ. Your actions now will leave you subject to the same double jeopardy you faced while on active duty. Did you also ask the VA about what will happen when you are convicted of a drug related charge? It will happen if you use drugs.

It is unethical and illegal to advise you in any way to break the law. My advice is for you to adhere to the UCMJ, which is federal law, and to not use illegal drugs. The consequences for your actions can vary from case to case. The crystal ball function on this site has been inoperable for quite some time so there is no way for anyone to accurately tell you the outcome of your situation.

[ron24]

Well, I'll call the VA and ask them specifically if I'm called to IRR muster and pop for drugs what will happen. I'll post up my response so this may benifit other members reading this.

My next question is what happens if I don't show up for this annual muster or if they are some how magically not able to get ahold of me?

Maybe I'll just be a good boy and play this game I've been playing for the last 5 years.

[ERAUPIKE]

Originally Posted by ron24

Well, I'll call the VA and ask them specifically if I'm called to IRR muster and pop for drugs what will happen. I'll post up my response so this may benifit other members reading this.

My next question is what happens if I don't show up for this annual muster or if they are some how magically not able to get ahold of me?

Maybe I'll just be a good boy and play this game I've been playing for the last 5 years.

If you don't show up for annual muster the likely consequence is an administrative separation from the IRR. This discharge will not have any impact on your discharge from active duty but your chances of being able to re-enlist will be dramatically decreased. Ask them how a civilian arrest for drugs will impact your benefits as well. You actually have three years in the IRR, not two.

[mlane58]

Originally Posted by ERAUPIKE

If you don't show up for annual muster the likely consequence is an administrative separation from the IRR. This discharge will not have any impact on your discharge from active duty but your chances of being able to re-enlist will be dramatically decreased. Ask them how a civilian arrest for drugs will impact your benefits as well. You actually have three years in the IRR, not two.

That would be true if the OP doesn't have any time in the DEP. If the OP did have a year in the DEP than they would be correct that they only have two years in the IRR, but we don't know that.

[ERAUPIKE]

Originally Posted by mlane58

That would be true if the OP doesn't have any time in the DEP. If the OP did have a year in the DEP than they would be correct that they only have two years in the IRR, but we don't know that.

DEP time does not count towards active duty.

[mlane58]

Sorry, but you are incorrect. Any time spent in the delayed enlistment program counts toward MSO. Check your facts!

[ERAUPIKE]

Originally Posted by mlane58

Sorry, but you are incorrect. Any time spent in the delayed enlistment program counts toward MSO. Check your facts!

The regulations governing the DEP program vary from service to service. In any service the maximum amount of time one can spend in the DEP program is 365 days. It is highly improbable that the OP spent exactly the maximum or even close to it.

[mlane58]

Originally Posted by ERAUPIKE

The regulations governing the DEP program vary from service to service. In any service the maximum amount of time one can spend in the DEP program is 365 days. It is highly improbable that the OP spent exactly the maximum or even close to it.

NO it is not highly improbable that the OP or anyone else sent 365 days in the DEP, millions have and just who are you to make such an asinine statement? I spent 15 years in Air Force recruiting and at just about every facet of it and have seen thousands of kids in the DEP spend 365 days. All the branches to include the Department of Defense recognize that any time in the DEP is counted toward an MOS--try reading the front page of a DD Form 4 sometime.

[DRTDEVL]

mlane is correct. DEP time is counted towards your MSO, and sometimes considered in your TIS for retirement purposes (why they list your DIEMS date on your LES).

[patriotam22]

Originally Posted by ron24

Okay,

I've been on active duty for 5 years (Navy) and I'm being discharged honorably next month. I plan on going to school and well doing a little partying along the way. I still have 2 years in the IRR. I know that there is a annual muster and they do drug test you.

I'm done with the military and don't want anything more to do with it. Is there any specific law that states I have to show up for muster and what will happen if I don't? My main concern is keeping my GI Bill. Will I lose my GI Bill if I fail to report or if I get a discharge from the IRR that is other then honorable?

My plan is well to ignore the phone calls if I receive them. Or just ignore them long enough to clean up.

Thanks in advance.

hey, I haven't posted here in a while but I saw his post and I wanted to help you out. I don't feel like retelling my entire story so you can search out my post history over the past 4 years. Long story short:

i was enlisted and then chaptered out because of an on-duty injury in 03, I was apart of the first ever initial IRR call up and after reporting to Ft. Jackson I showed all my old paperwork and the doctors there told me "We're sorry but the injury that forced you off active duty is no longer good enough to keep you from not serving"

I packed up my bags and walked out of Ft. Jackson and the first ever IRR muster. I NEVER was followed up on, I was never marked AWOL, they never called my house once. I recieved my HONORABLE Discharge on December 13, 2008.

Just stand up for yourself and you won't be screwed over, if you have any questions please contact me. I have no idea of any of the other posters here most just like to toot their own horns while having 0 experience but as someone who went throught it personally in the last couple years I'm here to help you out and answer any questions you have.