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09-27-2007, 12:09 PM
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| | | Just Went AWOL and Need Advice!
From Ohio
Ok, I got the retarded idea that I wanted to join the Army so of course I did. After the first couple days it became clear to me that this was NOT what I wanted to do. I tried to quit, I tried getting out for medical and mental reasons but they made it seem very bleek and they kept telling me that the quickest way out of basic training was to finnish the right way. Well needless to say that was not good enough for me so I went AWOL. I just completed Reception at Fort Benning Ga and was in my second day of Basic and I made a run for it. The anxiety was just too much for me, I have had anxiety problems in the past but this amplified it X100%. I felt like I volunteered to go to jail and there was no way out. Its been about 3 days and I just need some advice on what to and not to do. I dont want to go back, I dont want to be in the Army any more, I have a family and other responsabilities that I need to take care of. From what I have read so far is that either way once I turn my self in I will have to go back for several weeks to out process. I just want to know that when I decide to go back that I WILL be discharged and hopefully without going to jail. Any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks!
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09-27-2007, 12:39 PM
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Call GI Rights-that's what they're there for. 800-394-9544. I could help you if filing for Conscientious Objector status, but you haven't mentioned that. GI Rights knows more about army discharges, they're safe, confidential and very helpful. Just keep in mind you are not alone. Pentagon admitted to over 40,000 Army AWOL a year ago, so it was probably over 50,000, and over 70-80,000 by now. (reports from numerous military support non-profits say calls from army personnel gone or considering going awol have doubled since last year, roughly 50,000 calls a month just to one group) Call GI Rights. They're all trained volunteers who really care, so if you don't get an answer, leave a message. Your info is safe with them, and they will call you back. Don't panic and good luck.
This is a wonderful message board here, filled with knowledgeable helpful people. I'm sure you'll receive sound advice and/or experience to draw on from others who will post later on this thread. My suggestion is to call GI Rights and keep checking this board.
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09-27-2007, 01:30 PM
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| | | I could help you if filing for Conscientious Objector status I dont even know what that is to be honest. |
09-27-2007, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Broadydudester  I could help you if filing for Conscientious Objector status I dont even know what that is to be honest. | A conscientious objector (CO) is an individual following the religious, moral or ethical dictates of his conscience that are incompatible with being a combatant in military service, or being part of the armed forces as a combatant organization. In the first case, conscientious objectors may be willing to accept non-combatant roles during conscription or military service. In the second case, the objection is to any role within armed forces and results in complete rejection of conscription or military service and, in some countries, assignment to an alternative civilian service as a substitute for conscription or military service. Some conscientious objectors may consider themselves either pacifist or antimilitarist. This is not to be confused with 'Persistent Objectors', which are nations whose persistent stance against a particular rule exempts them from that rule under customary international law.
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09-27-2007, 05:09 PM
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| | | Whatever I have to do to get out. Can you still be charged with desertion being that I have only been in not even 2 weeks? |
09-27-2007, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Broadydudester Whatever I have to do to get out. Can you still be charged with desertion being that I have only been in not even 2 weeks? | Did you not READ GeorgeSpelvin reply?
UA is anything less than 30 day; past 30 you are declared as a DESERTER! |
09-27-2007, 06:11 PM
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| | | 2 days? Just go back and I can almost promise you will be give an ELS and back home within 2-4 weeks. There are many provisions for people just like you. The Army knows its wasting its time with you and will want to get you out as soon as you go back face the music. In the Army's eye you are now a liability and a waste of money. Go back, face the very little backlash and move on. |
09-27-2007, 06:37 PM
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09-27-2007, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Broadydudester What is an ELS? | ENTRY LEVEL SEPARATION
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09-27-2007, 06:47 PM
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| | | I dont know I keep hearing so many different things. I know 2 kids in my company went AWOL a few days prior to me and they got caught and sent right back to thier platoon and received an artical 15 on top of it. But they are right back where they DONT want to be. I know after 30 days its desertion but i read that after 45 days you will receive a PRC packet and be dropped from the ranks. All I know is I do want to put this behind me but I dont want to go back and be put right back into my platoon and even worse since I ran I would most likely be messed with by the Drill Sgt.s And the First Sgt. Would it help too if I went to a shrink and got diagnosed with anxiety and depression and possibly bipolar before going back. I do beleive that I have all of those mental problems just from reading symptoms, I think due to drug use etc. Do you think that would aid my discharge as well? I dont really care if I get A dishonorable I can always get a job with my family so I dont care about that. I just want the quickest safest way home. I have a wife and a 2 year old and I need to be here for them and not in judicial limbo for 3 months or more. |
09-27-2007, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SHORTY LONG ENTRY LEVEL SEPARATION | So that means what? |
09-27-2007, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Broadydudester So that means what? |
It is a uncharacterized discharge. It is a good thing actually. The said named soldier may have a chance to reenlist someday. It won't follow him around like a less than honoroble discharge will. It ain't good paper but it ain't bad paper either.
BTW if a soldier,sailor,Marine or airman turns himself in on his/her own accord then they will not be charged with desertion (if they are it won't stick). To desert means you have no intention of returning. If you turn yourself in then you are proven to not be a deserter. Get caught... Well that's another story.
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09-27-2007, 09:03 PM
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| | | So then should I wait to get dropped from the ranks and get my Prc packet before turning myself in??? |
09-27-2007, 09:27 PM
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| | | Life will be better if you get there in UNDER 30 days. Think of your wife and child who could use some benefits and a paycheck.
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09-27-2007, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginny J Life will be better if you get there in UNDER 30 days. Think of your wife and child who could use some benefits and a paycheck. | but will I get out? | |
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