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Old 02-12-2007, 09:59 PM
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OTH for AWOL - Any Chance of an upgrade?

What is the name of your state? NY

I went AWOL in from the Army after 3 months (Just prior to graduating OSUT AIT )

I went AWOL because I told my Commander , Chaplain and JAG I made a mistake joining the Army, and requested an entry-level seperation and they would not give me one. This happened in 2004.

I was AWOL for 32 days, I went to Ft. Sill and I was processed and released in 4 days, I recieved my DD-214 a few months later.

My Questions is this, Can I upgrade this discharge to General "Under Honorable Conditions"?

How many of these AWOL discharges (if any) ever get upgraded? I never got locked up, never did drugs, never been in any trouble other than this, and I want to upgrade because I want to re-enlist when I finish my degree next year.

Any lawyers who specialize in this kinda stuff? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

ThankyouWhat is the name of your state?What is the name of your state?
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:39 AM
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Yes, there are plenty of Attorneys who specialize in Military Law and Justice;
you just need to search for one!

Here is a link on how to upgrade Military Discharge:
[url]http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/generalinfo/a/dischargeupg.htm[/url]

You ask: "My Questions is this, Can I upgrade this discharge to General
"Under Honorable Conditions"? Many factors play a part in the process.
You will not know until you try!
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:38 PM
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I'd like to chat

invictus84, I'd like to talk to you regarding this issue. If interested, please go to the User CP (upper left) and turn on private messages in the "Options" link. Thanks
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:06 PM
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I would have to ask why you believe you deserve a discharge under honorable conditions. You did not serve honorably and failed to complete your term of service. I'm not picking on you, I'm asking a question that should be asked when you present your case.
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:26 PM
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I would answer that question by stating the truth, which to me would be: I joined the military at a bad time in life and was responsible enough to try to get out before things got bad, they would not let me, so i left. I now know the time is right and would like a second chance to serve my country honorably.
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:17 AM
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I believe that your chances of an upgrade are little to none. That said, I still think it is ok to try.

You _may_ want to wait until you've gotten your life back together, can demonstrate that you a fine upstanding citizen, volunteer at the local VA center, serve soup to the homeless, etc.
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:32 AM
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invictus84, I'd like to talk to you regarding this issue. If interested, please go to the User CP (upper left) and turn on private messages in the "Options" link. Thanks
If you can't discuss an issue on the open forum then why are you here?
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:08 PM
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If you can't discuss an issue on the open forum then why are you here?
It's there option to use the PM option, that's why it's there.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:36 PM
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I agree with cyberspook, it is their right to use it. Nothing personal belizebreeze, but if you are just going to make comments that have nothing to do with the post, why make them?
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Old 02-20-2007, 07:11 AM
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PM'ing?

My apologies if this is not an acceptable way to communicate on this board.

Our discussion would have divulged some personal details about myself, which I would choose not to put on a public forum.

So Belize, I will/would gladly discuss any "issue" on this board, no matter who it relates to. That doesn't mean I want the entire board to have my email address, or broadcast personal friends contact info, etc.

Thanks.
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:52 PM
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What is the name of your state? NY

I went AWOL in from the Army after 3 months (Just prior to graduating OSUT AIT )

I went AWOL because I told my Commander , Chaplain and JAG I made a mistake joining the Army, and requested an entry-level seperation and they would not give me one. This happened in 2004.

I was AWOL for 32 days, I went to Ft. Sill and I was processed and released in 4 days, I recieved my DD-214 a few months later.

My Questions is this, Can I upgrade this discharge to General "Under Honorable Conditions"?

How many of these AWOL discharges (if any) ever get upgraded? I never got locked up, never did drugs, never been in any trouble other than this, and I want to upgrade because I want to re-enlist when I finish my degree next year.

Any lawyers who specialize in this kinda stuff? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

ThankyouWhat is the name of your state?What is the name of your state?
I hate to beat a subject to death but...

To get your discharge upgraded you have to prove that it wasn't fair or it was in error.

The discharge you received probably meets the criteria of being fair and not in error.

Get your military records (there are plenty of threads that will tell you how). Pour over them you will need to look for reasons why it should have been a General instead of a OTH. Perhaps if you can outweigh your contributions to the military vs. your shortcomings (AWOL is a huge shortcoming) you may beable to pursuade them. Having an exemplary post military life will NOT be enough by itself, but it will help. Showing up at the hearing in person also helps if the opportunity is there.

Despite most thinking that these upgrades are impossible, they are not, but it takes a tremendous amount of work on your part to pursuade the board to change a discharge.

Lots of lawyers handle these upgrade applications. Generally they charge anywhere from $500 to $1000 or more if you want them to travel to DC. You can Google up there websites with keywords "Military Lawyers"

Now you said something about re-enlisting. I am sure your DD214 has a RE-4 re-enlistment code on it. You cannot re-enlist with that code. You will have to get it upgraded as well. Also not an easy task.

Going AWOL/UA has many consequences to it. I hope anyone reading this thread who is thinking about going AWOL/UA puts some serious thought into it first. There are other ways to deal with the military.
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:59 PM
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I just realized you were only in for 3 months. Duh... You may also try to have the discharged changed from OTH to Entry Level Seperation.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:37 PM
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Follow Up

I was wondering if you had any more information in regards to upgrading your discharge reason or re code.

Thank you
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:41 PM
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HRCAL. This thread is very old; and normally if the [OP] has not replied within 20-30 days, then it is old news.
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Ecc 7:1 A good name [is] better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth.

"There are two letter[s] in the word of [Life] that, in part gives direct meaning to it, "IF."" By /SL/ aka., April 23, 2008

Only by cutting through the darkness of ignorance, and prejudice can we achieve true justice; and
to all those who corrupt the search for truth be warned, the "Sword of Justice" cuts both ways!
Last edited by m martin; 11-02-2007 at 09:33 PM.
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:17 PM
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Cool

up grade

While you were at pcf and went trough jag then you should know that they said that even after yearsof discharge that it would probably take a letter from your church,gov,and state rep to get upgrade. the upgrade is more of a mythe than anything else. yet in mythe you can file for upgrade GOOD LUCK!!!!!!
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