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Old 04-14-2006, 10:25 AM
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Son falsly accused of UA in the Navy


What is the name of your state? CA

My son was transferred to the navy base in Virginia Beach VA; he arrived on a Sat. at 11:59PM. He was checked in to the appropriate watch quarterdeck; the watch quarterdeck escorted him to another office to receive his room card-key; then the watch quarterdeck escorted him to his room. The watch quarterdeck my son to stay in and near his room and wait for an escort to arrive so that he could be escorted to get officially checked in. An escort never arrived. My son called the appropriate office and tried to ascertain when would the escort be coming because no had arrived yet. Their response every time was "someone will be there". After about 28-30 days had passed, my son received a call on his cell phone from someone in TN asking where had he been this whole time and advised my son that he was considered on being on an UA for 30 days. My son explained that he was doing as he was ordered-to wait in and near his room for an escort. He rec a general discharge under honorable conditions for misconduct (RE-4). Next of kin was never notified of him missing after 10 days had passed; we are trying to upgrade his discharge so that he can re-enlist-in correcting the reason for the discharge, what would be an acceptable narrative correction? Does anyone have any ideas?
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Old 04-14-2006, 02:54 PM
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My_JETTA, first you did state where your son was transfered from, nor the exact date and time! Second for him to be on base and in his new duty station, then surely there should be record of this! Thirdly, it is a bit much for one to wait 28-30 days before they again bring to the attention of his "CO" or at least the "Duty Officer" that he has reported as ordered! Suggestedly, if the Navy screwed up then the Navy can repair its mistakes! With this stated and depending on how long your son has been discharged will determine by suggestion what he should do to correct his discharge. Giving you the benifit, let us say he has been discharged less than 30 day and he was not Court-Martialed; then, he could contact the Navy department and request Appellate Defense Counsel to assist him and the Navy in righting a wrong. On the other hand, if he has been out a long-time and was court martialed then that is a whole different situation! Shorty out!


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What is the name of your state? CA

My son was transferred to the navy base in Virginia Beach VA; he arrived on a Sat. at 11:59PM. He was checked in to the appropriate watch quarterdeck; the watch quarterdeck escorted him to another office to receive his room card-key; then the watch quarterdeck escorted him to his room. The watch quarterdeck my son to stay in and near his room and wait for an escort to arrive so that he could be escorted to get officially checked in. An escort never arrived. My son called the appropriate office and tried to ascertain when would the escort be coming because no had arrived yet. Their response every time was "someone will be there". After about 28-30 days had passed, my son received a call on his cell phone from someone in TN asking where had he been this whole time and advised my son that he was considered on being on an UA for 30 days. My son explained that he was doing as he was ordered-to wait in and near his room for an escort. He rec a general discharge under honorable conditions for misconduct (RE-4). Next of kin was never notified of him missing after 10 days had passed; we are trying to upgrade his discharge so that he can re-enlist-in correcting the reason for the discharge, what would be an acceptable narrative correction? Does anyone have any ideas?
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Old 04-22-2006, 02:31 PM
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So what is the rest of this story. Sounds like the OP isn't telling us everything.
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Old 04-22-2006, 02:56 PM
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Son Falsly accused of UA in the Navy


That is the whole story if you are referring to what my son has explained as to what happened. I don't know what OP means-please clarify.

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So what is the rest of this story. Sounds like the OP isn't telling us everything.
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Old 04-22-2006, 03:25 PM
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That is the whole story if you are referring to what my son has explained as to what happened. I don't know what OP means-please clarify.
First of all OP is you. Secondly your son is not telling you everything. Did he just sit in his room and do nothing? Was he not proactive in finding someone from his new command. Something is not right with this story. I suggest you get your son to tell you everything.
All BEQs have a sign in log. They have record of him being there. Can he name anyone in the BEQ? Who did he talk to in the receiving command? In 30 days no one can vouch for him being there?
Lady you son is not telling you the truth. You may want to ask where he really was.
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Old 04-22-2006, 03:39 PM
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Son falsly accused of UA in the Navy


Thank you for the clarification on the OP.

If I could, I would get the records from his room card-key usage-that would show that he was indeed on the base; from what I understand, people on UA don't stay on base as my son did. Secondly, I believe my son's story becuz he wouldn't have agreed to pursue trying to get back in if he had been doing something wrong or was up to no good-he would just say drop it. Thirdly, our congressman who is also an attorney wouldn't have forwarded my son's request to have this matter looked into if he thought it sounded fishy.

My son might have ADD tendencies therefore, the normal person would have known what to do in this situation but for him, he did what he thought was best which was to follow the direction of the quarterdeck watch (or whatever that person who gave him the room card key) and he phoned the PSD regularly to advise them that no escort had shown up yet and when could he expect one. He received the same response every time "someone will be there".

If the navy REALLY thought he was on an UA, why after 10 days wasn't next of kin notified (and a copy of the same letter is sent to a chaplain in son's home town) by letter that he had been missing (this letter is supposed to go out after military member has been missing for 10 days)?...this letter of UA notification was never received by son's next of kin (me-his mother).
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:27 PM
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What is the name of your state? CA

My son was transferred to the navy base in Virginia Beach VA; he arrived on a Sat. at 11:59PM. He was checked in to the appropriate watch quarterdeck; the watch quarterdeck escorted him to another office to receive his room card-key; then the watch quarterdeck escorted him to his room. The watch quarterdeck my son to stay in and near his room and wait for an escort to arrive so that he could be escorted to get officially checked in. An escort never arrived. My son called the appropriate office and tried to ascertain when would the escort be coming because no had arrived yet. Their response every time was "someone will be there". After about 28-30 days had passed, my son received a call on his cell phone from someone in TN asking where had he been this whole time and advised my son that he was considered on being on an UA for 30 days. My son explained that he was doing as he was ordered-to wait in and near his room for an escort. He rec a general discharge under honorable conditions for misconduct (RE-4). Next of kin was never notified of him missing after 10 days had passed; we are trying to upgrade his discharge so that he can re-enlist-in correcting the reason for the discharge, what would be an acceptable narrative correction? Does anyone have any ideas?
The discharge (General under honorable) really isn't the problem, if he just wants to re-enlist. The RE-4 is the real problem and I don't think that will get upgraded even if your request for discharge upgrade is approved.

Have you spoke with a recruiter? A RE-4 is waiverable despite what others may tell you but is not easy by any stretch. Rules change all the time when it comes to these waivers and a recruiter is a nice free resource to see if he can get past this.

Correcting military records is a daunting task at best. I would hate for you to begin the process just to find out 6 months from now that you have to do something else to accomplish your goal.

Good luck
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