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09-24-2009, 09:48 AM
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Long story but my neighbor is in the military and has a a long history with me harrassing , steeling my property, verbal assaulting me and my wife , making lude comments to me what sex acts he wants to do to my wife ,calling the sheriff on me and my wife with false reports of from watering my lawn to anoy him to saying we tried to run him over and more basicly he and his wife are trying to run me off, I have spent over $10k in lawyer fees trying to get this guy off my but with no results, Would a call to his CO help matters? since the goverment is paying his housing I wonder if his CO can or would do anything. its nice to know the military has such stable personel defending the USA |
09-24-2009, 11:24 AM
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| | | Yes, that is a good start. If he is a good Commander he will investigate and, if found to be true, can give a no contact order.
Please do not group all military personnel with one bad apple. |
09-24-2009, 12:04 PM
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| | | I would venture a guess that if $10K in legal fees hasn't shown any results there is a lot more to the story.
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09-24-2009, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hendo2010 Long story but my neighbor is in the military and has a a long history with me harrassing , steeling my property, verbal assaulting me and my wife , making lude comments to me what sex acts he wants to do to my wife ,calling the sheriff on me and my wife with false reports of from watering my lawn to anoy him to saying we tried to run him over and more basicly he and his wife are trying to run me off, I have spent over $10k in lawyer fees trying to get this guy off my but with no results, Would a call to his CO help matters? since the goverment is paying his housing I wonder if his CO can or would do anything. its nice to know the military has such stable personel defending the USA | Do you stereotype every group you interact with by the actions of one person?
There are three sides to this story; his, yours, and the truth. You can bet his command will ask for his side of the story and will more then likely side with the service member. You will need some actual evidence to prove that he has committed these acts against you. Police reports, which he has apparently filed against you on several occasions are helpful. What proof do you have to offer to his CO that any of this has actually happened?
I am surprised that after $10K in legal fees you haven't heard this information before. |
09-24-2009, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUPIKE Do you stereotype every group you interact with by the actions of one person?
There are three sides to this story; his, yours, and the truth. You can bet his command will ask for his side of the story and will more then likely side with the service member. You will need some actual evidence to prove that he has committed these acts against you. Police reports, which he has apparently filed against you on several occasions are helpful. What proof do you have to offer to his CO that any of this has actually happened?
I am surprised that after $10K in legal fees you haven't heard this information before. | Not stereotyping any group just asking a question , I have heard all the information and wanted to handle this without screwing with this guy at his work I just wanted some peace at my house,and after 2 lawyers and 10k between the 2 I am back to sqare one . as far as evidence I have a stack of documentation, hours of home suvaliance , police reports filed by me and ones he filed against me and so on there is alot more to the story its basicly a fued between neighbors over 5' of land road maintenence and me finally stopping this guy from walking all over me. I have gone through the courts and have ben basicly told unless he shoots me the courts are staying out of it as far as a restraining order, as far as the fued I have moved fences , trees , maintained a private road for free bent over backwards to mellow the situation, all I ever ask for from this guy is to leave me alone I dont want to be your friend , I dont want you at my house 24/7 and please stop telling me you love me just be my neighbor. and it started a war, |
09-26-2009, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hendo2010 Not stereotyping any group just asking a question , I have heard all the information and wanted to handle this without screwing with this guy at his work I just wanted some peace at my house,and after 2 lawyers and 10k between the 2 I am back to sqare one . as far as evidence I have a stack of documentation, hours of home suvaliance , police reports filed by me and ones he filed against me and so on there is alot more to the story its basicly a fued between neighbors over 5' of land road maintenence and me finally stopping this guy from walking all over me. I have gone through the courts and have ben basicly told unless he shoots me the courts are staying out of it as far as a restraining order, as far as the fued I have moved fences , trees , maintained a private road for free bent over backwards to mellow the situation, all I ever ask for from this guy is to leave me alone I dont want to be your friend , I dont want you at my house 24/7 and please stop telling me you love me just be my neighbor. and it started a war, | If this individual wasn't in the military would you think to call his boss? This is not a situation that warrants any type of intervention from his command. The government does not pay for his housing, they pay him. You have two options as I see it, try to work things out like an adult or move. |
10-01-2009, 02:22 PM
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| | | Yes, call his CO
If this guy is behaving like a jackass - call his CO. ERAUPIKE's question regarding calling his boss if he was a civilian is odd given that in myriad other posts ERAUPIKE seems to understand the military is different than a civilian employer. We have higher standards of behavior and he is subject to them 24 hours a day.
I am an Army officer and if this guy was in my unit I would want to know about it. If he was doing something illegal or just putting the Army in a bad light I would reel him in. Living off post is a benefit, not a right and it is earned on a daily basis.
At the very least I would make sure he is counseled by his first line leader regarding appropriate behavior towards women. |
10-01-2009, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by questionia If this guy is behaving like a jackass - call his CO. ERAUPIKE's question regarding calling his boss if he was a civilian is odd given that in myriad other posts ERAUPIKE seems to understand the military is different than a civilian employer. We have higher standards of behavior and he is subject to them 24 hours a day.
I am an Army officer and if this guy was in my unit I would want to know about it. If he was doing something illegal or just putting the Army in a bad light I would reel him in. Living off post is a benefit, not a right and it is earned on a daily basis.
At the very least I would make sure he is counseled by his first line leader regarding appropriate behavior towards women. | You are assuming this individual is telling the whole story, I believe they are not. This is not a job for the CO to fix, this is a situation where adults need to act like adults. |
10-02-2009, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by questionia If this guy is behaving like a jackass - call his CO. ERAUPIKE's question regarding calling his boss if he was a civilian is odd given that in myriad other posts ERAUPIKE seems to understand the military is different than a civilian employer. We have higher standards of behavior and he is subject to them 24 hours a day.
I am an Army officer and if this guy was in my unit I would want to know about it. If he was doing something illegal or just putting the Army in a bad light I would reel him in. Living off post is a benefit, not a right and it is earned on a daily basis.
At the very least I would make sure he is counseled by his first line leader regarding appropriate behavior towards women. | This guy is a jackass,Thanks for your Info . I agree with eraupike that there is more to the story all I can say is you have to live it to understand it , I just dont want to write a novel on the subject, I have never ben in the service and was just wondering if going to this guys CO can serve a purpose and get this guy off my butt and my wifes, I will say I have ben very professional on this fued with this guy and what it boils down to is he has ben with the service for 25 years is a 1 stripe sgt he mooched off me for years pretty much moved in, told me all about how he ripps off the af and will pull an early retirement with a fake health problem and work for me under the table, he wants to pay me for road maintence with stolen property off the base and he wants my wife to blow him and so on , I have always tried to just be the good neighbor and humor him off in a nice way then when he started gettin nasty about my wife I made it clear to piss off,he has a track record with the AF of being a a -hole including anger manegment and pills to make him normal he is just pissed cause I stopped humoring him and I got married " not the single guy next store" Right now after serving a restraing order on him the AF sent him tdy for awhile dont know if its a got anything to do whith a TRO but he will be back and I hope they have him on his happy pills. |
10-03-2009, 03:21 AM
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| | | This still doesn't add up.
1. An E-5 cannot have 25 years in service.
2. We are eligible to retire after 20 years, so there would be no such "early retirement" to commit fraud upon.
Try again.
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10-03-2009, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DRTDEVL This still doesn't add up.
1. An E-5 cannot have 25 years in service.
2. We are eligible to retire after 20 years, so there would be no such "early retirement" to commit fraud upon.
Try again. | Not sure on the rank he is topped out thats all I know and has told me what he wants to pull wich is his bussiness |
10-05-2009, 02:10 AM
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| | | The CO can give this guy a no contact order. That means the individual is to have no contact with you or your wife. If the guy continues contact the CO can give NJP or take him court martial. In my experience this is the normal course of action taken when there are disagreements between two individuals. Like others posted, yes I would contact his CO. For those that want to ask if you would call the person's boss, well the military is not the same as civil employment. In the civilian world your boss cannot punish you, cannot push for a court martial, cannot garnish wadges or give you extra duty or dock your pay. Anyone that suggests the military is the same as the military is completely wrong. Military members are held to the Uniformed Code of Military Justice, they know that and they voluntarily raised their hand and swore to follow it. The military holds its members to higher standards then civilians and if this military member is harassing someone then they deserve to take the punishment or at least be told to have no contact. It doesn't matter if this guy is not telling the whole story. A military member should not harass someone, they are supposed to have a cooler head and walk away and deal with a situation in the appropriate manner. |
10-05-2009, 02:16 AM
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| | | In addition I did investigations on AF members, if this guy said he is defrauding the government you can call AFOSI. Just call the base operator and ask for their number. You can give them the initial information over the phone and once they do some background will come to your house for a statement. If this guy really is defrauding the gov and stealing stuff he will be looking at some harsh punishment if it can be proven. |
10-05-2009, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hendo2010 Not sure on the rank he is topped out thats all I know ... | That is MUCH different than a "1-stripe sgt" (what the heck is that anyway?)
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10-05-2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kroam82 The CO can give this guy a no contact order. That means the individual is to have no contact with you or your wife. If the guy continues contact the CO can give NJP or take him court martial. In my experience this is the normal course of action taken when there are disagreements between two individuals. Like others posted, yes I would contact his CO. For those that want to ask if you would call the person's boss, well the military is not the same as civil employment. In the civilian world your boss cannot punish you, cannot push for a court martial, cannot garnish wadges or give you extra duty or dock your pay. Anyone that suggests the military is the same as the military is completely wrong. Military members are held to the Uniformed Code of Military Justice, they know that and they voluntarily raised their hand and swore to follow it. The military holds its members to higher standards then civilians and if this military member is harassing someone then they deserve to take the punishment or at least be told to have no contact. It doesn't matter if this guy is not telling the whole story. A military member should not harass someone, they are supposed to have a cooler head and walk away and deal with a situation in the appropriate manner. | This is not true. The CO does not have the legal authority to issue such a document. I will be the first to suggest the military is the same as the military. The Uniform Code of Military Justice does not apply to this situation at all. I appreciate your opinion but your knowledge of military law and regulations is not impressive. Try again.
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