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whatsit

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What is the name of your state? Virginia

Hi, I am Military spouse of 10 years and an Honorably discharged Veteran.

Immediatly after getting stationed here, in Fall of 2003, my husband was deployed to the Iraq. I had called social services to find out at what age a child could or should be here in order to be left home alone. I was told "There is no law that states what age a child could or should be, it is up to the parents discretion as to what that child can mental handle." All I could find within this State that had any useful information on the web concerning age was a county that states in thier guidelines " A child between the ages of 8-10 years old could be left for up to 1-2 hours alone during daylight hours as long as they were mentally capable of it. Using this, In Spring of 2004, I left my 10 year old son home alone for approx 40 minutes to run an errand. Came home to police who called social services. They came out took information and I did not hear from them until Early summer 2004.

I got a letter from them stating that charges were founded on ALL of our children, that my husband and I were high risk, a danger to our children, and were being entered into a registry for child abusers for 7 years. The code of the state they used to make it founded, has not exisisted since 2002, and the "evidence" they used to make it founded is that my son is diagnosed with ADHD and being medicated for it. (He does not have and is very far from ADHD, and has never taken any medication, or even raised any question of having it, as he is very orderly, neat, almost obsessive in sticking "to the book" ) My husband wasnt even stateside when this happened but yet they have him listed as an abuser. I was also notified that Military family services was informed. The case with the city is currently under appeal, and NO criminal charges were ever made.

I got a letter from Military family services, from a social worker employed by them informing me that in fall of 2004, there is going to be a closed door disciplinary hearing against ME, a civilian, that I cannot attend. It is complete with doctors, medical professionals, Jag officals, My husband told me he also got a simular letter in his name. I called the Family services social worker and asked under what authority the military had to hold a hearing against me. I was told that as a military spouse, the military owned me, therefore could do whatever they wanted to. And that if I did not comply with the "discipline" the military decided upon, they would inform the city social services and have my children removed.

In the meantime, I have already completed the junk the city wanted me to do, but they refuse to close the case. Reason: They put the case in both mine and my husbands names, knowing full well he was not in the United States and would not be back for some time.

My husbands command is telling him that he only has to deal with the Military social services. City is saying that he has to deal with them, in fact they will not leave me alone until he does what they want. Military social services is telling me that I have to deal with both, because once again was told that I am owned by the military. I told the Military social services to shove it.

This is all in appeal within the court systems now because of the false information and facts that were used. City social services even went as far as to saying that I was non compliant because when asked what date my husbands command would be returning, I replied I couldnt give them that information.


WTH is the authority here????! Both the city and the Military is telling me they are. I did what the city said, to "appease the beasts", but the military social services is making the same nasty threats about removing my kids ect if I dont do what they want. If my husband chooses the wrong side, the other side is going to say he didnt comply and remove my kids anyway. I will be damned if I am going to do the same thing twice for false charges.

Since when does the military have the authority to have martial law for a matter as this? We did not live in government housing at the time, and this did not happen anywhere near government property. What right do they have to hold a hearing against me as a civilian.?

From my understanding I had assumed that once the social services turns it over to military family services, it is out of thier hands and now a military matter. That is what the MIlitary family services WAS telling me, until I told them I had already completed what the city wanted, then military family services told me I had to do both. The city is telling me that I have to do what they want, or every other word is foster care. My lawyer told me that as far as I am concerned, I can tell the Military to shove it where the sun doesnt shine because they cant do a damn thing to me.

Quite frankly, I am getting sick of all of this. If anyone can shed some light on my questions I would greatly appreciate it. IF military life wasnt hard enough on marriages and kids, this has ultimatly taken the cake. I am just about ready to leave my husband so that I dont have to move anywhere else where socialistic unseen laws that are not laws stand, and dictatorship (aka military family services) infoms a civilian that they have to comply with a military punishment over something not even directly related to the military.

I sent a letter to my congressman about this matter trying to get some insight and the reply I got was "thanks for your interest in same sex marriages".
 


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DanielleS

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Military "Law"

Illinois

We used to live in VA. Trying to navigate as a spouse to an enlisted military for ANY reason is difficult. I know, go to my site www.enlistednavy.com and read my top 10 list on what your recruiter forgot to mention. Myabe I need to make one for spouses too :) Anyway, feel free to email me anytime. I have dealt personally with Ed Schrock's office staff in Va Bch last summer. His office helped us out enough to get us out of the frying pan, but into the fire. Unfortunately, the problem with congressmen/women, is that they're politicians, and only work for you for the moment. What they don't realize is (or do realize but don't care) that once you've got them involved, the whistle is blown, then the moment the 'heat' dies down, the door shuts, and you get raped by the system. There needs to be an organization that follows families or individuals long-term or at least until they are no longer GOVERNMENT PROPERTY.
 
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whatsit

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While I thank you for taking the time to reply to my OP, I cannot fathom how you can compare your husbands command making him inform the Military that his wife has a psychological problem, to the situation at hand. EFM has nothing to do with this, I am not under any mind altering medications. I do not need them. I do not have problems with depression, or have to be looked at by doctors for any such thing. There is nothing wrong with my son either as far as EFM goes that would be detrimental to my husbands posts. Furthermore, I have no idea whose office it is that you mentioned in your post. This is a completly different topic and I was unsure of where to list it to get correct answers.

I cannot agree with everything that goes on within the military system from either when I was prior active duty, or a spouse, but I will not belittle it either. Does the pay stink? Absolutly, but it is no big secret either. Being how your post said you are in Illinois, you of all should know what a horrid state the economy is in. Unless you relocate to India, or another of those countries where all of our jobs are relocating to, you are not going to find much better as far as pay. Is the medical grand? Not quite, but Its better than having to choose between eatting, or getting your medications.

I understand you mean well and all, but posting derrogatory and hate sites against the Military on peoples posts who need help with a particular situation does not help whatsoever. And Just a bit of advice......Commands dont like spouses who make waves and create problems for the command. It makes that service member a liability. Perhaps if you trumped down your hatred, took down your site, especially removing pictures of the person and the names, your husband might indeed progress up the ranks.
 
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whatsit

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Nevermind answered my own questions when I found the FAP instruction put out by the CONO.

They can do it. Military has no authority over me as suspected, however to preseve the military family and way of life" they can hold this hearing on me.
Just cannot enforce any "discipline" on me. However if they find it founded, I will now be entered in a federal child abuse registry where records are kept for 50 years, and used to make statical findings. ><

JIC anyone else is looking for the same information.
 

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