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    Can I take a neighbor to court suspected of spying?

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    My mother and I live in an apartment complex. The walls are somewhat thin but most neighbors try not to disturb others. We shouldn't be able to hear foot steps unless someone is stomping. My mother and I live on the 12th floor. The neighbors I am complaining about is on the 13th floor right above us, they have to children. When we first moved in things were pretty quiet, then the banging started. It was in every room we happen to be in, it would stop when we moved to another. We thought it was just coincidence at first or the sound was just carrying or even construction. But it became increasingly clear, after 4 years, it was not. If I set up cameras around our home showing how the banging/knocking/dragging/stomping would stop and start, would that be enough proof to take them to court? If we win can we gain money? enough to move somewhere else?

    I know this sounds a little crazy but live here for 4 years and you would understand.

    We have tried calling the police, there would be a pause but it would start right back up again, louder.

    The banging has reduced over the years. The constant following doesn't stop until we're sleeping. My mother and I have to take vacations just to get away. We do not know how they are doing it. We have tried everything within our budget but it continues. We are quiet people and we keep to ourselves, there is no reason why we should be targeted like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan_Meg View Post
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    My mother and I live in an apartment complex. The walls are somewhat thin but most neighbors try not to disturb others. We shouldn't be able to hear foot steps unless someone is stomping. My mother and I live on the 12th floor. The neighbors I am complaining about is on the 13th floor right above us, they have to children. When we first moved in things were pretty quiet, then the banging started. It was in every room we happen to be in, it would stop when we moved to another. We thought it was just coincidence at first or the sound was just carrying or even construction. But it became increasingly clear, after 4 years, it was not. If I set up cameras around our home showing how the banging/knocking/dragging/stomping would stop and start, would that be enough proof to take them to court? If we win can we gain money? enough to move somewhere else?

    I know this sounds a little crazy but live here for 4 years and you would understand.

    We have tried calling the police, there would be a pause but it would start right back up again, louder.

    The banging has reduced over the years. The constant following doesn't stop until we're sleeping. My mother and I have to take vacations just to get away. We do not know how they are doing it. We have tried everything within our budget but it continues. We are quiet people and we keep to ourselves, there is no reason why we should be targeted like this.
    I suggest you speak to a counselor about your delusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antigone* View Post
    I suggest you speak to a counselor about your delusions.
    If your not going to answer my question then you shouldn't be responding =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan_Meg View Post
    If your not going to answer my question then you shouldn't be responding =/
    There is no legal issue here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antigone* View Post
    There is no legal issue here.
    Of course there is. It's invasion of privacy.

    Even my boyfriend who has been with me for 3 years thinks there is something wrong. At first he thought I was imaging it but then he too understood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan_Meg View Post
    My mother and I have to take vacations just to get away.
    You need to move into a detached house.

    Tower life is not for you.

    The police as well the civil courts are just not going to be of any help to someone with your sensitivities to sound transfer.

    I am sure you upper neighbors are loud, but your hypothesis that this is intentional sounds very dubious, and is not supported by any facts that you present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xylene View Post
    You need to move into a detached house.

    Tower life is not for you.

    The police as well the civil courts are just not going to be of any help to someone with your sensitivities to sound transfer.

    I am sure you upper neighbors are loud, but your hypothesis that this is intentional sounds very dubious, and is not supported by any facts that you present.
    We would move if we could.
    But we don't have the money.
    I'm still in college.
    I'm tempted to knock open the walls to see what I will find.
    I don't expect people who haven't been in this situation to understand how I feel.
    But there must be someway to get enough evidence to take them to court
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan_Meg View Post
    We would move if we could.
    But we don't have the money.
    I'm still in college.
    I'm tempted to knock open the walls to see what I will find.
    I don't expect people who haven't been in this situation to understand how I feel.
    But there must be someway to get enough evidence to take them to court
    You go right aheand and knock open the walls, you'll be back here looking for a criminal attorney.
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    And what would you take them to court FOR? What are your damages?
    Two things I am tired of typing: 1.) A wrongful termination does not mean that you were fired for something you didn't do; it means that you were fired for a reason prohibited by law. 2.) The above answer, whatever it is, assumes that no legally binding contract or CBA expressly says otherwise. If it does, the terms of the contract apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbg View Post
    And what would you take them to court FOR? What are your damages?
    Harassment, invasion of privacy and anything else I can find =P
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    Honestly, you have no case. I would suggest that you find other living arrangements.
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    How very interesting that all this began around the typical age of onset for schizophrenia.
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    You didn't answer my question about damages.
    Two things I am tired of typing: 1.) A wrongful termination does not mean that you were fired for something you didn't do; it means that you were fired for a reason prohibited by law. 2.) The above answer, whatever it is, assumes that no legally binding contract or CBA expressly says otherwise. If it does, the terms of the contract apply.
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    Ok, how about this for some proof.
    I set up audio devices around our apartment.
    We left for a some hours and came back late.

    The banging started as soon as we got comfortable. I checked the audio devices and there was no sound expect for the occasional noise from upstairs around the time we were leaving. So it was quiet when we were not home.

    I did this another day and I got the same results.

    There has never been a day since we moved here that there were no sounds coming from upstairs.
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    Sounds from upstairs are par for the course when you live below someone.

    And you STILL haven't answered my question about what damages you have.
    Two things I am tired of typing: 1.) A wrongful termination does not mean that you were fired for something you didn't do; it means that you were fired for a reason prohibited by law. 2.) The above answer, whatever it is, assumes that no legally binding contract or CBA expressly says otherwise. If it does, the terms of the contract apply.

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