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Neonfire3

Junior Member
A scammer that lost a paypal dispute to me has filed a chargeback to his credit card company. (He's. in India). His card provider seems to be mastercard. My question is, if i show he is doing something illegal (trying to attempt customs fraud) using evidence in the messages he sent me, will that illegal activity cause his credit card company to void his case ie make him lose the case and have the funds restored to me?
 


tranquility

Senior Member
I don't think I'd want to claim conspiracy to commit customs fraud as your argument to have Mastercard validate the charge.
 

tranquility

Senior Member
if i show he is doing something illegal (trying to attempt customs fraud) using evidence in the messages he sent me
I assume the messages were for whatever you were arraigning to send him, if not they are irrelevant to your argument. If you didn't send it, you shouldn't get the money. If you did send it with the knowledge he was trying to attempt customs fraud, (Since you didn't give a state, I'll use Wikipedia):
In criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime at some time in the future. Criminal law in some countries or for some conspiracies may require that at least one overt act must also have been undertaken in furtherance of that agreement, to constitute an offense. There is no limit on the number participating in the conspiracy and, in most countries, no requirement that any steps have been taken to put the plan into effect (compare attempts which require proximity to the full offence). For the purposes of concurrence, the actus reus is a continuing one and parties may join the plot later and incur joint liability and conspiracy can be charged where the co-conspirators have been acquitted or cannot be traced. Finally, repentance by one or more parties does not affect liability but may reduce their sentence.
 

Neonfire3

Junior Member
I assume the messages were for whatever you were arraigning to send him, if not they are irrelevant to your argument. If you didn't send it, you shouldn't get the money. If you did send it with the knowledge he was trying to attempt customs fraud, (Since you didn't give a state, I'll use Wikipedia):
They are relevant to what i was sending him yes. I sent them, but i marked them as merchandise. New york
 

tranquility

Senior Member
They are relevant to what i was sending him yes. I sent them, but i marked them as merchandise. New york
If no customs fraud was committed, it is not close enough to be considered an attempt under these facts. So, I don't think such a claim would be successful in what you want.
 

Neonfire3

Junior Member
If no customs fraud was committed, it is not close enough to be considered an attempt under these facts. So, I don't think such a claim would be successful in what you want.
Well from all of the info ive gathered, the sinple act of asking someone to mark as gift when it isnt a gift is illegal... Can anyone confirm?
 

tranquility

Senior Member
In the U.S. that would generally be known as solicitation. In India? I have no idea.

But, I still don't think it would help, other than the discussion makes a stronger case you actually sent the item.
 

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