I am so lost can someone help me out?

[kckage16]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Oregon

ok so basically what happened we i pretty much came back from iraq and like got in a relatioship with this girl and stuff.. i asked her to mery me and then now i broke it up because she would not give me my car back... so yeah she somehow got her name on my title to my car somehow and then pressured me to sign it over to her.. I had no idea what my rights were or anything i was lost and under pressure i did that.. so now through her manipulation she has take possession of my vehicle... i have proof that i was paying the insurance and im not sure but i may be able to find the previous owner to verify i traded him my old car and 1000 for that car that my ex-fiancea scammed from me.... I wish i had contacted someone regarding this issue back then but she was a manipulative con artist and also that brings me to the other stuff i wanted to ask about... she has a weeding ring worth 1300$ that im currently still paying for??? i asked for it back several times she just ignores my requests.. and also she has tons of my other belongings including a set of my army military id tags that have my social on them... i would like to find out some way i can get my stuff back... also when i had asked her to merry me we had decided to get a joint bank account which she drained like three times including the fact that i had deposited a 1300$ check in it and she drained it... i had closed that account but somehow it got reopened.... is there anyone that can help me?? do i have a case at all against her and getting anything back?? or am i at a loss?? im so tired of getting used by people and this is the first time im standing up for myself seeming in the past if been subject to similar things happening to me of which i have evidence for but havent stood up and asked about....

[HighwayMan]

Don't you keep your title in a safe deposit box? If she got her name on it why did you have to sign it over to her?

You should file a report with your local police, but you'd better be certain you want to go all the way with this or it's all just a waste of time.

[kckage16]

yeah actually what happened was i had got back from iraq and bought a car then i met her and stuff and she had kids so i traded my car in for a van and somehow mine and her name was on it.. at the time we broke up i aggreed that she could use my van she claimed she was sick with cancer and needed it to get to appointments.. later after a few weeks i asked for my van back and she would not return it i continued to ask for it back a week or so after and she would then i went to meet her to get it back and she had alot of her friends there and was pressured to signing it over or bullied or whatever but yeah my title had been in the van and i never thought anything of it.. was my first car and everything really makes me mad i dnt care if i get my van back or not i just dnt think i should have to pay for a wedding ring that i gave to someone im not merrying?? she wont give that back?? so yeah i dnt know what to do i never been in a situation quite like this before? and im sick of all this

[HighwayMan]

Originally Posted by kckage16

somehow mine and her name was on it..

Somehow? You don't know?

[kckage16]

yeah both our names were on it but yeah its ok though im forgetting all this and moving out of state im maxing my credit card and paying for that ring and moving away i hope i never see her again cause what happened was horrid

[dave33]

You are screwed.Sounds like you gave her the car or sold it to her. Whatever, the bill of sale along with the title is in her name. Bottom line the vehicle belongs to her. Contacting the previous owner will give you no satisfaction. The reason for this is because he has no knowledge of your actions after the vehicle purchase,so forget about going that route. Now comes the ring. This was a wedding ring ,not engagement ring? I ask this because usually the wedding rings are given at the ceremony.But, of course there are exceptions to every rule.Depending on your states civil procedure you may still have a claim against it because it is strongly understood it is only a gift if the marriage ceremony is completed. As far as the bank account goes and your personal belongings. If you just want your clothes, ask an officer to accompany you to retrieve your stuff. But, if you are looking to regain something financial than a civil lawsuit seems to me like that's your only option. If in fact you were forced to relinquish control of the vehicle to your girlfriend, st6op being such a pushover . Join the local gym.(something) This cannot go on forever, you'll never have anything. Also to be clear,I did no research into your states civil or criminal laws or procedure. Do some research. goodluck.

[fabulous07]

yeah, the car is hers and why did you call off the engagement? When you ask someone to marry you, you are supposed to share everything with that person. I'm glad you didn't go through with it if that's not what you really wanted. Marriage legally entitles your spouse to everything you own.

Next time you propose to someone, make sure you truly love them and want to be with them. It is a commitment ya know and I think it's reasonable for your fiance to expect a commitment both financially and emotionally.

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by fabulous07

yeah, the car is hers and why did you call off the engagement? When you ask someone to marry you, you are supposed to share everything with that person. I'm glad you didn't go through with it if that's not what you really wanted. Marriage legally entitles your spouse to everything you own.

Next time you propose to someone, make sure you truly love them and want to be with them. It is a commitment ya know and I think it's reasonable for your fiance to expect a commitment both financially and emotionally.

Now THAT'S a crock. Being engaged is no more legally binding than being acquaintances that met at a party the previous evening.

[fabulous07]

I said Marriage entagles you legally with your spouse, not engagement. Read it over again.

But since the girl thought they were getting married, she expected him to start acting like her husband. A proposal is a promise of commitment. He said he was committed to her and then called off the engagement. You should let her keep the ring and quit crying about it. Don't make promises you're not going to keep.

[fabulous07]

He started sharing things with her, proposed to her, made her think they were going to be married and then asked for his things back because he doesn't like sharing his stuff. Then he shouldn't be asking people to marry him if he doesn't want a commitment.

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by fabulous07

I said Marriage entagles you legally with your spouse, not engagement. Read it over again.

What you said was: When you ask someone to marry you, you are supposed to share everything with that person.
What is absolutely false. (Thus, a crock).

Then you went on to say: Marriage legally entitles your spouse to everything you own.
That is also absolutely false (and, a crock).

This is a legal advice board. If you don't know the legally correct answer, please refrain from responding.

[fabulous07]

you are obviously a man. Ever heard of alimony? Whenever a couple is married and they get divorced, they split up ALL the assets equally unless there is a prenuptial agreement. Marriage does too legally and financially obligate you to the person you married until you are divorced. That is legally correct information. I assume you aren't married or you'd know that already

[fabulous07]

Legally, no he doesn't have to do anything for her since they weren't married yet, but whatever he has done for her in the past were gifts. He could sue her in civil court to try to get the ring back, but not only is that not right, but since he called off the engagement after giving her the ring as a gift, they probably will not rule in his favor.

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by fabulous07

you are obviously a man. Ever heard of alimony? Whenever a couple is married and they get divorced, they split up ALL the assets equally unless there is a prenuptial agreement. Marriage does too legally and financially obligate you to the person you married until you are divorced. That is legally correct information. I assume you aren't married or you'd know that already

Ok, so person A owns a piece of land in Alaska and gets married to person B. The land neither gains nor loses any value during the course of the marriage and is never touched by marital funds, nor is title ever changed to reflect any ownership interest for person B . Then the couple split up and divorce. Are you saying that the person B is entitled to half the value of the land? Really?

As I said, if you don't know the LEGALLY ACCURATE answers, refrain from posting.

[fabulous07]

A gift is a gift is a gift... there was no expectation for her to pay him back in any way for the ring since it was a GIFT. Besides, he called off the engagement!!!!