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Old 10-22-2009, 06:31 PM
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Is this a misdemeanor or a violation?


What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? NY


Hello, I was issued a pink summons/ticket in New York City's Washington Square Park two months ago, for being in the park after closing time (I didn't realize the park ever closed -- there was no sign at the entrance I entered).

I found it online under Rules of the City of New York, 56 RCNY 1-03(c)(2):
Failure to comply with directions/prohibitions on signs.

I have to go to Criminal Court tomorrow because I pled not guilty when I first went to the Court two month ago. My question is - Is this offense a misdemeanor, or just a "violation"? I am worried about having a criminal record for something so ridiculous. I have never had any experience with "criminal court" and have no idea what to expect. I really don't care about paying the fine, as I WAS in the park after closing time, regardless of whether I think the ticket was reasonable. I am just worried about my record and unsure what I should do. Thanks for any help anyone can give.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:03 PM
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? NY


Hello, I was issued a pink summons/ticket in New York City's Washington Square Park two months ago, for being in the park after closing time (I didn't realize the park ever closed -- there was no sign at the entrance I entered).

I found it online under Rules of the City of New York, 56 RCNY 1-03(c)(2):
Failure to comply with directions/prohibitions on signs.

I have to go to Criminal Court tomorrow because I pled not guilty when I first went to the Court two month ago. My question is - Is this offense a misdemeanor, or just a "violation"? I am worried about having a criminal record for something so ridiculous. I have never had any experience with "criminal court" and have no idea what to expect. I really don't care about paying the fine, as I WAS in the park after closing time, regardless of whether I think the ticket was reasonable. I am just worried about my record and unsure what I should do. Thanks for any help anyone can give.
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Originally Posted by RCNY §1-07
Penalties.
(a) Any violation of these Rules other than Rule 1-04(b)(1)(a) shall constitute a misdemeanor triable by the Criminal Court of the City of New York and punishable by not more than ninety days imprisonment or by a fine of not more than $1,000, or by both, in accordance with §533(a)(9) of Chapter 21 of the New York City Charter.
(b) Any violation of Rule 1-04(b)(1)(a) shall constitute a misdemeanor triable by the Criminal Court of the City of New York and punishable by not more than one year imprisonment or by a fine of not more than $15,000, or both.
(c) Any violation of these Rules shall also constitute a violation triable by the Environmental Control Board and punishable by a civil penalty of not more than $10,000, in accordance with §533(a)(9) of Chapter 21 of the New York City Charter.
Interesting. It appears it is both a misdemeanor and a violation, depending on where it is tried. Since you are not before the ECB though, this would appear to be a misdemeanor. It does seem a bit disproportionate to the "crime" though, which leads me to suspect that you should be able to get a pretty decent plea deal, particularly if your record is clean.

Ideally, you should retain a criminal defense lawyer, as you do (potentially, although unlikely) face a three months of jail time. If I had to guess though, if you were to explain the facts, explain your job requirements, and politely ask for an "ACD", you have a good shot at getting it.

Of course, if you don't, please remember that I advised you to retain a lawyer before you come back to complain (assuming your jail has internet access ).
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Then start crying uncontrollably. If that doesn't work, fill your pants with shaving cream and start screaming about the voices in your head. Maybe they'll feel bad enough about your other problems and let you out of the ticket.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:18 PM
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Thank you


You Are Guilty, thank you so much for your answer. I didn't even know what an ACD was, and the search for it online led me to several discussions of the exact criminal court I am appearing at, and how it works - motions for dismissal, ACDs, etc. So that was really helpful.

I can't say I wasn't dismayed to find that I am charged with a misdemeanor, but I'm hopeful that something can be worked out.

Thanks again.
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