PeterPotamus
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
Ohio... but I need a cite from Nevada as a "persuasive authority" in something I'm compelled to deal with myself before the courts
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
Nevada
Hello FreeAdvice attorneys,
I need the cite from Nevada Supreme Court decision Lyons v. Nevada; this is not the 2007 decision -- the decision would have been rendered around 1989 to 1991.
Harold Lyons was the plaintiff
The case had to do with what was colloquially referred to as "handle popping" on slot machines
I imagine that every now and then a weird case comes along in your careers.
1960s TV Police dramas often told us that "ignorance of the law was not an excuse"
Of course, many criminal acts are obvious in their criminality. For example, if two separate individuals at two different points in time in two different jurisdictions EACH PERFORM the same series of acts which are replicated 100.0% --and not just 99.9% ---
1) Pull into a convenience store parking lot in an automobile
2) Leave the engine running while entering the store
3) Produce a handgun and demand production of the contents of the contents of the cash register
4) Flee the store once in possession of the loot
5) Enter the vehicle and escape at high speed
...obviously both individuals would realize their conduct served as a basis for prosecution
The Nevada Supreme Court opinion was in part based on an exigency which manifested itself during oral arguments. Harold Lyons had been a "handle popper" all his adult life.
An Air Force Sergeant named "Coolidge Brown" was arrested at Reno's Eldorado Casino after he observed a handle popper at a slot machine and witnessed casino staff repeatedly fill the hopper with coins.
Brown approached the machine and discovered that if he 100.0% performed the exact same physical acts, he too could enjoy a crushing edge.
The Nevada Supreme Court was forced to deal with the quandry that Coolidge Brown might not realize the performance of those 100.0% same physical acts may serve as a basis for prosecution.
1) I need the cite
2) I need the quote from the written decision where it states something to the effect that crimes do not appear or disappear in the presence of "scienter"; either the handle popping was a CRIME for both Lyons and Brown or in the alternative, both men were innocent.
Thank you
Timothy John Childs (you can look him up in the Nevada Black Book) also had his conviction reversed maybe in the early 1990s. I remember when the Pacific Reporter Volume was released to the law libraries that it was the VERY FIRST CASE in that volume
Could someone please provide the cite for that?
Thanks once more
Ohio... but I need a cite from Nevada as a "persuasive authority" in something I'm compelled to deal with myself before the courts
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
Nevada
Hello FreeAdvice attorneys,
I need the cite from Nevada Supreme Court decision Lyons v. Nevada; this is not the 2007 decision -- the decision would have been rendered around 1989 to 1991.
Harold Lyons was the plaintiff
The case had to do with what was colloquially referred to as "handle popping" on slot machines
I imagine that every now and then a weird case comes along in your careers.
1960s TV Police dramas often told us that "ignorance of the law was not an excuse"
Of course, many criminal acts are obvious in their criminality. For example, if two separate individuals at two different points in time in two different jurisdictions EACH PERFORM the same series of acts which are replicated 100.0% --and not just 99.9% ---
1) Pull into a convenience store parking lot in an automobile
2) Leave the engine running while entering the store
3) Produce a handgun and demand production of the contents of the contents of the cash register
4) Flee the store once in possession of the loot
5) Enter the vehicle and escape at high speed
...obviously both individuals would realize their conduct served as a basis for prosecution
The Nevada Supreme Court opinion was in part based on an exigency which manifested itself during oral arguments. Harold Lyons had been a "handle popper" all his adult life.
An Air Force Sergeant named "Coolidge Brown" was arrested at Reno's Eldorado Casino after he observed a handle popper at a slot machine and witnessed casino staff repeatedly fill the hopper with coins.
Brown approached the machine and discovered that if he 100.0% performed the exact same physical acts, he too could enjoy a crushing edge.
The Nevada Supreme Court was forced to deal with the quandry that Coolidge Brown might not realize the performance of those 100.0% same physical acts may serve as a basis for prosecution.
1) I need the cite
2) I need the quote from the written decision where it states something to the effect that crimes do not appear or disappear in the presence of "scienter"; either the handle popping was a CRIME for both Lyons and Brown or in the alternative, both men were innocent.
Thank you
Timothy John Childs (you can look him up in the Nevada Black Book) also had his conviction reversed maybe in the early 1990s. I remember when the Pacific Reporter Volume was released to the law libraries that it was the VERY FIRST CASE in that volume
Could someone please provide the cite for that?
Thanks once more
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