non-violent threatening, distribution of pornographic photos

[michaelchinsere]

What is the name of your state? New Jersey, person lives in Pennsylvania

All right, here's what's up. I just found out yesterday that my Dad's cheating on my Mom. Since I can't downright confront either one of them, without having a falling-out with my Dad, or telling my Mom and have her commit suicide, I've decided to confront the Whore (who's also married by the way), in an attempt to scare her off, and with the goal for her to never have any contact with my Dad ever again.

The twist to the story is that I found this out while browsing my Dad's computer, and found many pictures of the Whore in compromising positions.

What I want to do is basically threaten the Whore with "Either leave my Dad alone, and never see him again, or I'll post these pictures at your work and home" (so the husband would see them, and her co-workers (she's the boss by the way) look respec for her). What I'm trying to find out is; say I make 500 copies of a certain picture, and as I'm walking by her home and office, they 'accidentally' fall out of my briefcase (Or I can also mail them to the Whore's Father, Mother, and any Brothers and Sisters' addresses). Can I be charged with any crime?

Also, I want to pay somebody to run a background check on the Whore, and find out where her parents live and where they work, as well as find out if she has any brothers/sisters, and where they live and work. So I can have the added information to threaten her with, as in "If you don't leave my father alone, I will also mail these pictures to your mom and dad on _____ street, and your brother on ______ street, and your sister on ______ street".

I'm thinking that the best way is to use the mail, then I won't have to deal with any legal issues about minors seeing the pornography or such. But I want to know if threatening somebody (non-physically) is legal. And if sending photos of a person to their family can be constituted as a crime.

I've read many posts here with people bashing each other, so have fun, I'll just ignore you, and wait until some intelligent lawyer gives me some sound advice in this matter. I'm really not looking for moral advice either, as I already know my dad's an @sshole as well. And I have no problem ruining somebody's life, when their actions could potentially ruin many other people's lives. -Thanks

 

[seniorjudge]

Your course of action would be stalking.

 

[michaelchinsere]

How would it be stalking, if I only have interaction with the person 1 time.

All I'm planning on doing is showing her one of the photographs, and telling her to stay away from my father. I was just presenting the other things as something else to tell her, the 1 time I make contact.

Here's the stalking law from Pennsylvania:

_____________________________

§ 2709. Harassment and stalking.


(a) Harassment.--A person commits the crime of harassment when, with intent to harass, annoy or alarm another person:


1. he strikes, shoves, kicks or otherwise subjects him to physical contact, or attempts or threatens to do the same; or


2. he follows a person in or about a public place or places; or


3. he engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts which alarm or seriously annoy such other person and which serve no legitimate purpose.


(b) Stalking.--A person commits the crime of stalking when he engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts toward another person, including following the person without proper authority, under circumstances which demonstrate either of the following:


1. an intent to place the person in reasonable fear of bodily injury; or


2. an intent to cause substantial emotional distress to the person.

________________________________________


The only part that could possible apply here is (b)2: "an intent to cause substantial emotional distress to the person." If that's true, than this woman is stalking me, because I am substantially emotionally distressed, without a doubt. Also, I wouldn't be doing this repeatedly, so that wouldn't apply.

 

[seniorjudge]

Let us know how this turns out.

 

[BelizeBreeze]

What is the name of your state? New Jersey, person lives in Pennsylvania

All right, here's what's up. I just found out yesterday that my Dad's cheating on my Mom. Since I can't downright confront either one of them, without having a falling-out with my Dad, or telling my Mom and have her commit suicide, I've decided to confront the Whore (who's also married by the way), in an attempt to scare her off, and with the goal for her to never have any contact with my Dad ever again.

The twist to the story is that I found this out while browsing my Dad's computer, and found many pictures of the Whore in compromising positions.

What I want to do is basically threaten the Whore with "Either leave my Dad alone, and never see him again, or I'll post these pictures at your work and home" (so the husband would see them, and her co-workers (she's the boss by the way) look respec for her). What I'm trying to find out is; say I make 500 copies of a certain picture, and as I'm walking by her home and office, they 'accidentally' fall out of my briefcase (Or I can also mail them to the Whore's Father, Mother, and any Brothers and Sisters' addresses). Can I be charged with any crime?

Also, I want to pay somebody to run a background check on the Whore, and find out where her parents live and where they work, as well as find out if she has any brothers/sisters, and where they live and work. So I can have the added information to threaten her with, as in "If you don't leave my father alone, I will also mail these pictures to your mom and dad on _____ street, and your brother on ______ street, and your sister on ______ street".

I'm thinking that the best way is to use the mail, then I won't have to deal with any legal issues about minors seeing the pornography or such. But I want to know if threatening somebody (non-physically) is legal. And if sending photos of a person to their family can be constituted as a crime.

I've read many posts here with people bashing each other, so have fun, I'll just ignore you, and wait until some intelligent lawyer gives me some sound advice in this matter. I'm really not looking for moral advice either, as I already know my dad's an @sshole as well. And I have no problem ruining somebody's life, when their actions could potentially ruin many other people's lives. -Thanks

How about growing up? YOu sound like you're 12 and playing dolls.

Your parents are grown adults. They have the right to live their lives, however flawed, without your meddling.

And just in case you haven't figured it out by how, how the hell do you know that your mother is in the dark about any of this?

 

[seniorjudge]

What is the name of your state? New Jersey, person lives in Pennsylvania

All right, here's what's up. I just found out yesterday that my Dad's cheating on my Mom. Since I can't downright confront either one of them, without having a falling-out with my Dad, or telling my Mom and have her commit suicide, I've decided to confront the Whore (who's also married by the way), in an attempt to scare her off, and with the goal for her to never have any contact with my Dad ever again.

The twist to the story is that I found this out while browsing my Dad's computer, and found many pictures of the Whore in compromising positions.

What I want to do is basically threaten the Whore with "Either leave my Dad alone, and never see him again, or I'll post these pictures at your work and home" (so the husband would see them, and her co-workers (she's the boss by the way) look respec for her). What I'm trying to find out is; say I make 500 copies of a certain picture, and as I'm walking by her home and office, they 'accidentally' fall out of my briefcase (Or I can also mail them to the Whore's Father, Mother, and any Brothers and Sisters' addresses). Can I be charged with any crime?

Also, I want to pay somebody to run a background check on the Whore, and find out where her parents live and where they work, as well as find out if she has any brothers/sisters, and where they live and work. So I can have the added information to threaten her with, as in "If you don't leave my father alone, I will also mail these pictures to your mom and dad on _____ street, and your brother on ______ street, and your sister on ______ street".

I'm thinking that the best way is to use the mail, then I won't have to deal with any legal issues about minors seeing the pornography or such. But I want to know if threatening somebody (non-physically) is legal. And if sending photos of a person to their family can be constituted as a crime.

I've read many posts here with people bashing each other, so have fun, I'll just ignore you, and wait until some intelligent lawyer gives me some sound advice in this matter. I'm really not looking for moral advice either, as I already know my dad's an @sshole as well. And I have no problem ruining somebody's life, when their actions could potentially ruin many other people's lives. -Thanks

BB, you wanna explain what "course of conduct" means or should we wait for IAAL?!

 

[BelizeBreeze]

BB, you wanna explain what "course of conduct" means or should we wait for IAAL?!

You mean for example this brat plays her little game, the mistress gets pissed at daddy (after all, he's the only one with the photos) and decides to fight fire with fire, distributing the naked photos HE sent HER on every billboard in the city and causing mommy dearest to have a heart attack and dad to shoot himself out of depression?

Nah....I think I'll wait for IAAL. There's GOT to be a trailer in this story somewhere and I owe him a belated Christmas gift.

 

[michaelchinsere]

How about growing up? YOu sound like you're 12 and playing dolls.

Your parents are grown adults. They have the right to live their lives, however flawed, without your meddling.

And just in case you haven't figured it out by how, how the hell do you know that your mother is in the dark about any of this?

Yeah, I'm sure I sound like I'm 12, when I'm trying to save my parents' marriage, that's really imature, how stupid of me, I should just go and shoot myself huh?

I know my mother doesn't know about the affair or she would have already divorced my father. She has been adamant for over 10 years about the fact that her sister's husband cheated on her. She has also said stated, on several occasions, while watching a movie, or being told a story from another party, that she wouldn't stand for that, and would immediately divorce my father if he ever cheated on her.

And furthermore, I will ALWAYS step into any one of my close families affairs when their actions could and will have dire, negative, possibly fatal effects on somebodies/everybodies lives around them. What if your mom is a crack whore; you're telling me you wouldn't get her into rehab and try to help her? If that's how you would act towards your family, please don't have any children, spare them a miserable, unsupported, never giving advice, never helping out, never trying to correct their mistakes, never watching out for them life.

I am not acting like I'm 12. I'm trying to save my father from himself. I'm trying to save the other woman's marriage as well (let alone her husband). I'm trying to save my mom the excrutiating pain and suffering that will come to her if she finds out. I am trying to hold my family together, because I believe (however naive) that my parents are still deeply in love with eachother. I'm trying to not have my entire family disown my father. I'm trying to make it so that my 2 brothers, who if they found out, would disown my father, still love him as the man they think he is (and I believe he truly is). People, I'm doing this out of love.

Besides, I'm trying to get legal advice, not a fu*k*ng judgement on my actions (which I should remind you, I haven't even done yet, thinking about something isn't a crime).

You mean for example this brat plays her little game, the mistress gets pissed at daddy (after all, he's the only one with the photos) and decides to fight fire with fire, distributing the naked photos HE sent HER on every billboard in the city and causing mommy dearest to have a heart attack and dad to shoot himself out of depression?

First off I'm male. I have copies of all the photos, along with phone records, and along with emails, should I go on? My father isn't shown in the pictures (therefore he isn't recognizable in the photos), but her entire body, and more importantly, her recognizable face, is plastered all over the pictures, therefore, even if my mom did see the pictures, how would she know who the man was?.....to have a heart attack, and my father shoot himself (with the gun he doesn't even own).

 

[BelizeBreeze]

So which is it? You mother will kill herself or she'll divorce your father?

You're getting your story (and your justification) mixed up here.

And one thing you haven't thought about junior is that you have no idea what he sent her. Unless, of course, you committed a felony and hacked into HER computer to download those photos.

The fact that you are even contemplating this shows not only a lack of legal understanding but a very strong personality disorder.

And also, since when did you learn so much about women. You really believe that crap about the 'wife is the last to know'? That's really laughable. What women say and what they do is rarely the same thing.

Now, since you're so hellfire sure of yourself, take your 'evidence' meet pops for a drink and tell him your little story. Then, when he's through kicking you ass from here to hell, he might grow up. But maybe then you'll also grow up.

 

[You Are Guilty]

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And to the OP: I say, why stop with just nekkid pictures of the woman? What if she doesn't care and keeps on cheating? You need to think bigger! How about you seduce her husband and right after you get it on with him, you let him in on his wife's little "secret"? Now, that sir, is revenge.

 

[michaelchinsere]

So which is it? You mother will kill herself or she'll divorce your father?.

You're getting your story (and your justification) mixed up here.

My mother can get depressed, but she is so strong willed that she would divorce my father, and I would think, sink into a very deep depression, after that, I really don't know what would happen. So of course I'm confused, I just found this out yesterday, let's see you adjust to this in a day. And my justification is simple logic: father messed up -I want to fix the mistake, while harming the least amount of people that I love in the process.

And one thing you haven't thought about junior is that you have no idea what he sent her. Unless, of course, you committed a felony and hacked into HER computer to download those photos.

I'm both the network administrator, and webmaster of the company website (it's a family business). Since I own the computers, privacy isn't an issue. I can view anybody's emails I want to, and have complete control of all the data, BY LAW, thank you very much. Have you ever read a corporate privacy statement for computer users? It basically states everything you do, browse, doenload, upload, whatever, is the property of the business. Furthermore, whatever you create, while on company time, is intellectual property of the company.

The fact that you are even contemplating this shows not only a lack of legal understanding.....

Why do you think I'm on a legal advice forum? of course I don't completely understand the law. You must be a really good, genius lawyer, who went to school for 8 years, to have found that fact out, Einstein.

.....but a very strong personality disorder

If it's a personality disorder to want to help people, and make things right/better. Everybody should be so lucky to have a mental defect

Furthermore, you should think about your own reasons to writing all of this....What do you have to be so bitter about? to have the need to yell at somebody elses un-acted upon actions.

And also, since when did you learn so much about women. You really believe that crap about the 'wife is the last to know'? That's really laughable. What women say and what they do is rarely the same thing.

True, but you don't know my mom, she would move out, divorce him, sue him for everything he ownes, just on the principle. And I wouldn't blame her one bit. I didn't know my best friend of 22 years was gay. The closest usually are the last to know.

Now, since you're so hellfire sure of yourself, take your 'evidence' meet pops for a drink and tell him your little story. Then, when he's through kicking you ass from here to hell, he might grow up. But maybe then you'll also grow up.

First off, Dad's 53, I'm 28, he couldn't kick my ass. I was also brought up with the morals that violence solves nothing.

 

[stealth2]

Dude - this is not your business. Neither of your parents will thank you for getting involved.

 

[BelizeBreeze]

I'm both the network administrator, and webmaster of the company website (it's a family business). Since I own the computers, privacy isn't an issue. I can view anybody's emails I want to, and have complete control of all the data, BY LAW, thank you very much. Have you ever read a corporate privacy statement for computer users? It basically states everything you do, browse, doenload, upload, whatever, is the property of the business. Furthermore, whatever you create, while on company time, is intellectual property of the company.

You obviously don't know my background. So, before you make a total ass of yourself, I would strongly suggest you run that last statement by an attorney versed in Corporate Law or the Federal Code. Or, if you like, run that statement by the F.B.I. taskforce on internet crimes.

And, of course, you might also want to run that statement by the Chairman of the Board of your 'family business' (I would guess it's your father right?) and see in what legal jeopardy you would be placing the company, not to mention the civil exposure.

Now, let's look at your 'company policy'. Do you think if you pursue this that the owner of the company, regardless of who it is, is going to allow you to place the company, it's employees and it's future in jeopardy from a civil suit from ANYONE affected by your juvenille tactics?

Son, you need a very strong "come to jesus" meeting with an attorney. Because you have NO IDEA how precarious your little game is.

 

[BelizeBreeze]

I was also brought up with the morals that violence solves nothing

And how, pray tell, does your little game fit into those "MORALS"?

 

[stealth2]

I was also brought up with the morals that violence solves nothing.

So..... instead you were brought up with the morals that blackmail is okay?