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10-22-2009, 08:35 PM
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| | | Pleading guilty and taking plea bargian make others involved who plead innocent make
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? wisconsin
If you plead guilty and take a plea bargian because you don't want to plead innocent and take to trial in fear of the outcome if you are found guilty does that make the other people involved who are going to trial who plead innocent look guilty in the court of law? |
10-22-2009, 08:42 PM
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| | | It surely throws a light of suspicion on them but the court is still required to prove their guilt.
Of course, along with your plea bargain, you very likely get to testify against them and tell the court they are not innocent.
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10-22-2009, 10:05 PM
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| | | It all depends on the situation. You will have to include a lot more information for us to make an informed decision. Now they can use you for a scapegoat. Your guilty plea could help them. Again, it all depends on the situation. |
10-22-2009, 10:20 PM
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| | | Ok here is a gist of what is happening. I got really drunk and blacked out and can't remember what happened. Me and two other guys both have the same felony charge. Since I have no knowledge of what happened except what the police told me I really can't defend myself in court. I would be a first time offender. I think the other guys think they can beat the charges due to lack of evidence. I on the other hand don't even remember what happened because I blacked out so I would rather take the a plea deal instead of risking an outcome that could be way worse. I don't want to make them look like there guilty though just because I took what is offered to me. So any advice or expertise from anyone with any knowledge would be much appreciated. |
10-22-2009, 10:39 PM
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| | | your guilty plea is easily explained away as it relates to their case. In fact, I do not see how you could get a plea deal since taking a plea deal generally requires you to allocute the specifics of your actions, which you obviously cannot.
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10-22-2009, 10:56 PM
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| | | so is there anyway that I could get out of going to court and having to take this to trial? |
10-22-2009, 11:01 PM
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| | | They also let us out before initial appearance court so I haven't been charged so Im assuming they don't have much evidence because if they did I seriously doubt they would have let us out before even appearing in court. If I did get a plea and tell them what I do know can my statement in the plea deal be used agianst them in court or is that off limits? |
10-22-2009, 11:33 PM
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| | | The fact that you got out before your initial appearance does not reflect on the amount of evidence they have or the strength of their case. What are your charges? Did you all get charged the same? It's hard to say about using your plea.Every situation, court, state, judge etc... is different. That among other things is a question for your attorney. |
10-23-2009, 12:51 AM
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| | | We all got charged the same with battery with aggrevated injury. One was held a couple days longer on a PO hold but they let him out before the 21 days they could of held him. Why I do not know but I herd it was because of lack of evidence. I know they are still investigating but I guess I am not sure what will happen. Has anybody heard of a similar situation or have anymore input? I am really curius why they would let us out without charging us if they had enough evidence? |
10-23-2009, 08:33 AM
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| | | 1st you say you all got charged the same than you say they let you out 1st.Is your question, why did they wait to charge you? Did you get charged the same day you got arrested? |
10-23-2009, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gmoney333  We all got charged the same with battery with aggrevated injury. One was held a couple days longer on a PO hold but they let him out before the 21 days they could of held him. Why I do not know but I herd it was because of lack of evidence. I know they are still investigating but I guess I am not sure what will happen. Has anybody heard of a similar situation or have anymore input? I am really curius why they would let us out without charging us if they had enough evidence? | without checking, I would guess they have 1 year to charge you so immediate charges are not necessary. If they do not have enough evidence to actually take this to trial at this time, they have the option of simply dropping everything or continuing to investigate.
They may also be trying to get one or more of you to flip on the others.
If I were you, I would want to wait on a plea deal until the others are tried. Since you really do not have recollection of the actions, their exoneration, or lack of prosecution, could would have a great impact on you.
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10-23-2009, 02:31 PM
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| | | We were all booked with the same charge and let out before officially charged. |
10-23-2009, 02:57 PM
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| | | I also have another question. If we all did get charged wouldn't we all have the same court date? So how could I wait to see what happens to the others? |
10-23-2009, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gmoney333 If we all did get charged wouldn't we all have the same court date? | Not unless you are being tried together
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