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MQuick

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California

Three or 4 years ago, my kids downloaded a couple of movies illegally. Mediacom shut off our service, I had to sign a paper, and it was turned on again. No problems at all until this last weekend, when my (unsecured) wireless signal was used by someone to download Horrible Bosses and my Mediacom service was terminated permanently. Granted, my wireless should have been secured, but I really couldn't figure out how to do that and I live in the boonies and didn't think anyone was close enough to be able to access it anyway.

Because I am positive nobody in my house downloaded that movie, I am thinking about appealing the decision, in which case Mediacom would forward my identity and all information to Warner Brothers for an investigation. However, the grounds under which I would appeal state, "Each of the above listed items was not resident on any computer or other storage device attached to my Mediacom Online service on the date and at the time listed on the Complaint". To me, that looks like I could be liable regardless of whether the machine attached to my service was authorized or not, if evidence is found on say, a neighbor's machine.

I can cut my losses and hopefully get another ISP (there are limited providers where I am, and they are not always taking new customers) or I can go through with this in the hopes the culprit is found, and that it doesn't blow back on me. Mediacom states that part of the investigation is tracking the actual IP address the movie went to, which would not be any of my computers. I'm just not sure what my liability is, and if I should just forget about it and move on to another (lesser) ISP. Obviously, I would make sure my connection is secure in the future. Thanks for any help you can offer.
 


justalayman

Senior Member
so, what kind of wireless router do you have?

the best system (802.11N) has a range, outdoors of about 820 feet. Indoors about 250 feet so, whoever downloaded on your wifi had to be quite close to your house to do so. If you believe it is not possible somebody was that close to your house, then it is likely somebody in your house did download the movie.


Mediacom states that part of the investigation is tracking the actual IP address the movie went to, which would not be any of my computers
actually that is not true. If it went to your router, it will register as your internet service. What identifies a specific device is the MAC address and ISP's don't care what your MAC address is so they will no likely have it.


and this isn't an advertisement but Hughes satellite internet is available just about anywhere
 

OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
Where your problem comes in, is even though the download will not register to one of your computers, within the network, you cannot substantiate you did not have another computer you used and have discarded, that was used.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
Kids and their friends have smartphones that can jack into your personal wifi network. I have had this happen myself, and am forced to frequently change my router password as a result.

Just thank your stars that it was not child porn that anyone downloaded!
 

MQuick

Junior Member
Thanks, everyone, for your input. I guess I will just chalk it up to a lesson learned and will secure my router the next time. The house to my right may be close enough to get a signal; they are new neighbors and I haven't even met them.

OT but how is Hughes? I looked into them and I see they have a daily data limit? Wild Blue seems to have a monthly limit; I'm used to no limit but then Mediacom is pretty slow.

Thanks!
 

justalayman

Senior Member
OT but how is Hughes? I looked into them and I see they have a daily data limit? Wild Blue seems to have a monthly limit; I'm used to no limit but then Mediacom is pretty slow.
Honestly I don't know. I have a work buddy that has it but haven't really talked about it. I'll try to remember to ask him tomorrow.
 

swalsh411

Senior Member
Where your problem comes in, is even though the download will not register to one of your computers, within the network, you cannot substantiate you did not have another computer you used and have discarded, that was used.
That's not possible. The outside world doesn't know which computer on the home network downloaded what. The account holder is presumed responsible and in control of all activity on the account.

I'd like to know how your ISP knew you were downloading the movie. Are they monitoring your activity? That alone would cause me to switch providers if at all possible.

Thank you.
 

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