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Old 04-25-2009, 12:51 PM
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Wrongful Death as a Result of Suicide


What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylvania
I'm trying to get some information for my mother-in-law. Her brother (I'll call him Jack) recently killed himself as a result of the actions of her sister (I'll call her Libby). LIbby is a money grubber, a boil on the butt of humanity, and works harder at not working and getting a free handout. Libby has somehow weasled her way back into the home of the father (who has dimentia and Alzheimers) after many, many years of estrangement. Jack has grown up in the home with his father and has cared for him throughout his ailments. Needless to say that since Libby has moved into the home, she has convinced her father to turn over the $500,000 plus farm to her. She then convinced him to kick Jack out of the house. Jack has endured a year's worth of this coniving woman's actions and has seen her go to work to get everything the family has. Jack was the sole heir to the farm until Libby went to work on her father. Jack also had a will but since his death, the will has disappeared, leaving all of Jack's assets to his father (which Libby now gets). A little background about Libby is that she does not work, she claims injuries from several staged accidents as to which she sued. My question: Does my mother-in-law have a chance at a wrongfull death lawsuit based on this situation?What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylvania
I'm trying to get some information for my mother-in-law. Her brother (I'll call him Jack) recently killed himself as a result of the actions of her sister (I'll call her Libby). LIbby is a money grubber, a boil on the butt of humanity, and works harder at not working and getting a free handout. Libby has somehow weasled her way back into the home of the father (who has dimentia and Alzheimers) after many, many years of estrangement. Jack has grown up in the home with his father and has cared for him throughout his ailments. Needless to say that since Libby has moved into the home, she has convinced her father to turn over the $500,000 plus farm to her. She then convinced him to kick Jack out of the house. Jack has endured a year's worth of this coniving woman's actions and has seen her go to work to get everything the family has. Jack was the sole heir to the farm until Libby went to work on her father. Jack also had a will but since his death, the will has disappeared, leaving all of Jack's assets to his father (which Libby now gets). A little background about Libby is that she does not work, she claims injuries from several staged accidents as to which she sued. My question: Does my mother-in-law have a chance at a wrongfull death lawsuit based on this situation?What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
It would be impossible to sue the right person. He is dead.
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I'm pointing at Libby. She made Jack's life a living Hell to the point that he couldn't take it anymore and killed himself.
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I'm pointing at Libby. She made Jack's life a living Hell to the point that he couldn't take it anymore and killed himself.
That Jack made the decision to kill himself is not Libby's fault. There are many people who make my like hell on a daily basis. Never have I thought of taking my life. People who commit suicide have mental issues, you can't pawn that off on someone else. Libby has the right to be a pain in the arse. She has a right to try and make someone's life miserable. If that person decides to give into Libby, then that person is to blame.

Wirelessany is correct. It's impossible to sue the right person because the person to sue is already dead.
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What about the woman in the news being sued for causing the Internet girl to kill herself over the Facebook slandering?

Is there any way to go after the boil (Libby) for getting the father to sign over all assets during his mental incapacility?

What can be done to this horrible woman?
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What about the woman in the news being sued for causing the Internet girl to kill herself over the Facebook slandering?
She was convicted of 3 counts of computer fraud by violating Myspace's terms of service, not making the little girl kill herself. So, if Libby gets on myspace and creates an identity other than her own to harrass the dead guy, then call the feds.
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Is there any way to go after the boil (Libby) for getting the father to sign over all assets during his mental incapacility?
You have too much time on your hands.
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What can be done to this horrible woman?
You can go about your life and leave her alone. I'm sure she's thinking very little about you.
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A wrongful death claim based on the facts you have provided would be very difficult to prove, and the damages would be questionable.

Your MIL and Jack should have taken action when Libby started allegedly taking advantage of a mentally incompetent elderly person. If your MIL thinks that her father is being abused and taken advantage of by Libby, why isn't that her focus?
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Sadly, this started about a year ago. I'm in another country and having to hear all of this in the end-run over the phone. Its sickening my husband and myself to know that this could have been stopped a while back. What's even more sickening is that Jack spent his entire life in that house and on that farm. There are other family members living out ther also. Libby will see to it that the farm is sold off before anyone gets a chance to stop her. The funeral is today and sadly we could not be there. We just have to try to pass on the right advice to an already distraught MIL.
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If your MIL thinks that her father is being abused and taken advantage of, she should notify the authorities and talk to an attorney who handles elder abuse cases.

I'm sorry for your loss. Suicide is one of the most complex issues a family ever has to deal with, and anger and blame cloud the grieving process.
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Las365, thank you. Unfortunately, the damage has already been done resulting in Jack's suicide. Its just blood-boiling to have knowledge of an individual who has succeeded in becoming everything seen on TV dramas. Our Uncle will be missed and I hope that Libby pays the consequences. I just hope that some loophole could be found or that she has to give everything back to Grandpa.....Thanks again....
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I'm deployed to Iraq and have to conduct matters via phone and Internet. I'm hoping that there is some legal way to get Libby off of the property and force her to give back the assets. I'm told that she also got grandpa to sign over all of his CDs and mutual funds, along with the cash accounts. Its mind-blowing that I am defending the freedom of people of this nature. Can grandpa be declared unfit (not in the right state of mind) a week ago?

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I'm deployed to Iraq
Thank you for your service to our country. I wish you, and all your comrades, safety and a "good" tour.
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Its mind-blowing that I am defending the freedom of people of this nature.
You can try to view it as defending the freedom of good people.

Kind of how I pay taxes, considering some of the stunningly vile projects on which "they" spend our tax money. For instance, I imagine that my taxes pay for your military salary and equipment.
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylvania
I'm trying to get some information for my mother-in-law. Her brother (I'll call him Jack) recently killed himself as a result of the actions of her sister (I'll call her Libby). LIbby is a money grubber, a boil on the butt of humanity, and works harder at not working and getting a free handout. Libby has somehow weasled her way back into the home of the father (who has dimentia and Alzheimers) after many, many years of estrangement. Jack has grown up in the home with his father and has cared for him throughout his ailments. Needless to say that since Libby has moved into the home, she has convinced her father to turn over the $500,000 plus farm to her. She then convinced him to kick Jack out of the house. Jack has endured a year's worth of this coniving woman's actions and has seen her go to work to get everything the family has. Jack was the sole heir to the farm until Libby went to work on her father. Jack also had a will but since his death, the will has disappeared, leaving all of Jack's assets to his father (which Libby now gets). A little background about Libby is that she does not work, she claims injuries from several staged accidents as to which she sued. My question: Does my mother-in-law have a chance at a wrongfull death lawsuit based on this situation?What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
I think your MIL should report this to elder services. I would say this is elder financial abuse.
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I think your MIL should report this to elder services. I would say this is elder financial abuse.
...and you base this bold statement on the word of someone so green-eyed with jealousy that make accusations of being a money grubber, a boil on the butt of humanity????
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