Home     Law Advice     Insurance Advice     Community    
Go Back   FreeAdvice Legal Forum > REAL ESTATE LAW > Other Real Estate Law Questions

Powered by Attorney Pages


  Find An Attorney In Your Area    
 

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-23-2005, 04:31 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 2

adverse possesion


What is the name of your state? Georgia

I inherited 50% of a home along with another party in 1993. Since that time, I have paid all the property taxes, all the maintenance & upkeep, and have had family members living in the home for various periods throughout this time. Not once during this 12 years has the other party attempted to contact myself about the property. When I first inherited, I spoke to her about the taxes for the property and she said she couldn't afford to pay them, so I've assumed 100% responsibility for it. The house was appraised at $14,000 in 1993 and in 2000 it appraised at $140,000. I do not want to buy her out since I don't think she deserves to get 50% of the current property value.

I would like to know if I have a case for adverse possession to take over 100% ownership of the property. I need to understand what criteria exist in Georgia for such a case and what steps I would have to take.
  #2  
Old 05-23-2005, 04:57 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 843
You can't get adverse possession against a legal co-tenant unless you've 'ousted' that tenant, ie. explicitly made it clear that you are kicking them off the property and taking control of their share.

However, you can file a contribution action against the other tenant demanding 50% contribution for mandatory upkeep costs (taxes & insurance, but probably not repairs) during this time. Since she can't afford it, she will likely be induced to sell her share to you at a reduced rate.
  #3  
Old 05-23-2005, 05:07 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: "Harvey and Me"
Posts: 25,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbus
You can't get adverse possession against a legal co-tenant unless you've 'ousted' that tenant, ie. explicitly made it clear that you are kicking them off the property and taking control of their share.

However, you can file a contribution action against the other tenant demanding 50% contribution for mandatory upkeep costs (taxes & insurance, but probably not repairs) during this time. Since she can't afford it, she will likely be induced to sell her share to you at a reduced rate.
WHOA PARDNER.....I think you'd better retink this answer.

Look at the post again. And this time VERY CLOSELY.
Quote:
Originally Posted by debpair
I inherited 50% of a home along with another party in 1993. Since that time, I have paid all the property taxes, all the maintenance & upkeep, and have had family members living in the home for various periods throughout this time.
And did you charge them rent so that your co-owner could reap the benefits of your 'illegal conversion'?
Quote:
Originally Posted by debpair
Not once during this 12 years has the other party attempted to contact myself about the property.
And that is not required under the law.
Quote:
Originally Posted by debpair
When I first inherited, I spoke to her about the taxes for the property and she said she couldn't afford to pay them, so I've assumed 100% responsibility for it.
Irrelevant to ownership. It MIGHT be relevant to a portion of the proceeds of the sale when that happens but on a prorated basis.
[quote-debpair]
The house was appraised at $14,000 in 1993 and in 2000 it appraised at $140,000. I do not want to buy her out since I don't think she deserves to get 50% of the current property value.
[/quote]
And that's tough crap. Because it's not your business what she deserves. It's up to the law and the courts.
Quote:
debar]
I would like to know if I have a case for adverse possession to take over 100% ownership of the property.
NOPE. What you HAVE is a case of PARTITION and nothing more. Everything you've given here as reasons to take possession of another's property are excuses that you've 'assummed the responsibility for' (your own words).

So, file partition and get ready to explain to a judge why you think your co-owner should retain a full 50% while your 'family members' recieved the benefit of the home. And if they paid rent then be ready to explain to that same judge why 50% of the monies collected were not credited to the co-owner's share of the taxes, why the co-owner did not receive 1/2 of the tax benefits and ....awww hell, you get the idea.
__________________
Just because I'm a miserable human being doesn't mean I'm not right...
  #4  
Old 05-23-2005, 05:10 PM
seniorjudge
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by debpair
What is the name of your state? Georgia

I inherited 50% of a home along with another party in 1993. Since that time, I have paid all the property taxes, all the maintenance & upkeep, and have had family members living in the home for various periods throughout this time. Not once during this 12 years has the other party attempted to contact myself about the property. When I first inherited, I spoke to her about the taxes for the property and she said she couldn't afford to pay them, so I've assumed 100% responsibility for it. The house was appraised at $14,000 in 1993 and in 2000 it appraised at $140,000. I do not want to buy her out since I don't think she deserves to get 50% of the current property value.

I would like to know if I have a case for adverse possession to take over 100% ownership of the property. I need to understand what criteria exist in Georgia for such a case and what steps I would have to take.

Permissive possession never ripens into adverse possession...even if it's a hundred years.
  #5  
Old 05-23-2005, 10:57 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 843
Belize, I did read the original question, and your advice is bad.

If the OP files for partition, the court will order a sale of the property. The OP may or may not be able to buy it during that proceeding, and may end up kicked out. That's bad for him. In partition the sister will get 50% of the proceeds (adjusted for her share of tax, insurance etc). That's also bad (according to the OP)

The OP wants to stay in the house and put the squeeze on the non-paying sister. That's why contribution actions exist.
  #6  
Old 05-24-2005, 06:00 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: "Harvey and Me"
Posts: 25,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbus
Belize, I did read the original question, and your advice is bad.

If the OP files for partition, the court will order a sale of the property. The OP may or may not be able to buy it during that proceeding, and may end up kicked out. That's bad for him. In partition the sister will get 50% of the proceeds (adjusted for her share of tax, insurance etc). That's also bad (according to the OP)

The OP wants to stay in the house and put the squeeze on the non-paying sister. That's why contribution actions exist.
Well that's too bad what the OP wants because the other party can bring the partition suit and then where is he? Out on his ass.

You are telling this person that they CAN convert a co-ownership into their own property which is downright FALSE.

Quote:
You can't get adverse possession against a legal co-tenant unless you've 'ousted' that tenant, ie. explicitly made it clear that you are kicking them off the property and taking control of their share.
The above is not only wrong but dangerous. You are giving this person false hope.

I don't know where you got your information, but it sure as hell wasn't in any law school in this country.
__________________
Just because I'm a miserable human being doesn't mean I'm not right...
  #7  
Old 05-24-2005, 08:27 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 843
Quote:
Originally Posted by BelizeBreeze
Well that's too bad what the OP wants because the other party can bring the partition suit and then where is he? Out on his ass.
Yes, the other party can bring partition. But the other party wasn't asking for advice. There will still be a contribution/accounting action as part of the partition.

Quote:
You are telling this person that they CAN convert a co-ownership into their own property which is downright FALSE.
No, I'm not. I'm saying the contribution action could be used as negotiating leverage against the other party to get her to sell out at a favorable price, since clearly she owes her share of many years of costs. This is legal. These disputes usually get settled before going to court.


Quote:
The above is not only wrong but dangerous. You are giving this person false hope.

I don't know where you got your information, but it sure as hell wasn't in any law school in this country.
Uh, whatever you say, Belize. It is definitely possible for a co-tenant to take the other co-tenants' shares by adverse possession in Georgia. The Georgia supreme court decided exactly this issue in 1999: Wright v. Wright, 512 S.E.2d 618. But I'm sure you knew that.

Last edited by shortbus; 05-24-2005 at 09:52 AM.
  #8  
Old 05-24-2005, 10:11 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Catatonic State
Posts: 75,781
this is going to be interesting. breezy v. shortbrain.
  #9  
Old 05-24-2005, 10:56 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 519

simplest solution: buy the OP out


Offer to buy her out (for whatever you think is fair), otherwise they will end up in a partition suit.
  #10  
Old 05-24-2005, 07:02 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 2

Thanks


Thanks, for all the advice, I think I will take the simpler approach and attempt to buy her out.
  #11  
Old 05-25-2005, 09:38 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Catatonic State
Posts: 75,781
[quote=shortbus]You can't get adverse possession against a legal co-tenant unless you've 'ousted' that tenant, ie. explicitly made it clear that you are kicking them off the property and taking control of their share.

**A: please provide the cite that proves that the writer's issue is even close to an adverse possession case.
If you can't do that, please stop posting incorrect information.
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:59 PM.



IMPORTANT NOTICE
THE VIEWS EXPRESSED ON THIS PAGE WERE NOT REVIEWED BY THE EDITORIAL STAFF OR ATTORNEYS AT FREEADVICE.COM. Thousands of professionally prepared and reviewed questions and answers in 130 legal categories are to be found at the Question and Answer pages at FreeAdvice.com.

F
reeAdvice Forums are intended to enable consumers to benefit from the experience of other consumers who have faced similar legal issues. FreeAdvice does NOT vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any posting or the qualifications of any person responding. Use of the Forums is subject to our Terms and Conditions which prohibit advertisements, solicitations or other commercial messages, or false, defamatory, abusive, vulgar, or harassing messages, and subject violators to a fee for each improper posting. All postings reflect the views of the author but become the property of FreeAdvice. Information on FreeAdvice or a Forum should not be relied upon and is not a substitute for advice from an attorney licensed in your jurisdiction who you have retained to represent you. To locate an attorney visit AttorneyPages.com. Copyright since 1995 by Advice Company. All Rights Reserved.