College Campus: Beging held accountable for someone else's parking ticket

[dcee53]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Missouri

I was given a parking ticket on a college campus, one which I had never attended as a student, while taking care of some business. This was more than a year ago. I ignored it because I had no legal obligation to pay it. Then recently my sister, who did attend and received a degree from this university more than a decade ago was given the bill for my ticket. They sent it to my parents house since that was the address where my sister lived when she went to school and that was the address where my car was registered. The school told my sister that its in the school's bylaws that this is how things are done. And if it's not paid then she can't get copies of transcripts or any other documents. Legally, how can she be held responsible for my parking ticket in a car that she didn't own or wasn't even insured on? This seems very fishy. Any help is greatly appreciated.

[racer72]

I had no legal obligation to pay it.

What makes you think you have no obligation to pay a legally issued parking citation?

[dcee53]

Originally Posted by racer72

What makes you think you have no obligation to pay a legally issued parking citation?

I'm not legally obligated to pay a parking ticket on a college campus that I do not or never attended that was issued by a campus parking attendant. That's no different than me issuing a ticket to a strangers car parked in my driveway. They have no legal recourse to purely come after me for the money. Parking tickets on college campuses are not legal in terms of there being laws for such a thing. They can put holds on current students and hold paychecks from employees until they're paid, but regular residents that can't do anything. Parking tickets issued by a municipality is a different story. But that still doesn't change the bottom line of the topic. By the way the initial ticket is $50 which is totally rediculous in the first place.

[cyjeff]

Originally Posted by dcee53

I'm not legally obligated to pay a parking ticket on a college campus that I do not or never attended that was issued by a campus parking attendant.

That is crap.

That's no different than me issuing a ticket to a strangers car parked in my driveway. They have no legal recourse to purely come after me for the money.

Yes they do.

Parking tickets on college campuses are not legal in terms of there being laws for such a thing.

Yup, and you broke one.

Parking tickets issued by a municipality is a different story. But that still doesn't change the bottom line of the topic. By the way the initial ticket is $50 which is totally rediculous in the first place.

You lose.

[I_Got_Banned]

Originally Posted by dcee53

I'm not legally obligated to pay a parking ticket on a college campus that I do not or never attended that was issued by a campus parking attendant. That's no different than me issuing a ticket to a strangers car parked in my driveway. They have no legal recourse to purely come after me for the money. Parking tickets on college campuses are not legal in terms of there being laws for such a thing. They can put holds on current students and hold paychecks from employees until they're paid, but regular residents that can't do anything. Parking tickets issued by a municipality is a different story. But that still doesn't change the bottom line of the topic. By the way the initial ticket is $50 which is totally rediculous in the first place.

Well, since you think you know everything (which you obviously don't) and you think you are making sense (and obviously you are not), why are you here? What is your question?

When you used the college campus facilities, you agreed to be bound by their rules and regulations. Since you violated those rules, you should have either fought the citation, paid the fine or done nothing and suffer the consequences. I guess you chose the latter... Bad choice!

[cyjeff]

Originally Posted by I_Got_Banned

Well, since you think you know everything (which you obviously don't) and you think you are making sense (and obviously you are not), why are you here? What is your question?

When you used the college campus facilities, you agreed to be bound by their rules and regulations. Since you violated those rules, you should have either fought the citation, paid the fine or done nothing and suffer the consequences. I guess you chose the latter... Bad choice!

Maybe if he went to the college for more than "some business", he wouldn't have this question.

OP, here are your choices.

One. Pay the ticket.
Two. Live with one diploma - less pissed off sister.

[dcee53]

Originally Posted by I_Got_Banned

Well, since you think you know everything (which you obviously don't) and you think you are making sense (and obviously you are not), why are you here? What is your question?

When you used the college campus facilities, you agreed to be bound by their rules and regulations. Since you violated those rules, you should have either fought the citation, paid the fine or done nothing and suffer the consequences. I guess you chose the latter... Bad choice!

My question is how can my sister, who has nothing to do with the situation, legally be responsible for something that I did? You can't charge a sibling with a robbery that you commit on your own. Oh, and what legal recourse does a university have to get a parking fine from someone. I would love to hear the response for this. Also, on what grounds can you assume that I agreed to be bound by their rules and regulations? The rules of a college campus are no more legally bounding than the rules of a private residence.

[Antigone*of*Greece]

Originally Posted by dcee53

My question is how can my sister, who has nothing to do with the situation, legally be responsible for something that I did? You can't charge a sibling with a robbery that you commit on your own. Oh, and what legal recourse does a university have to get a parking fine from someone. I would love to hear the response for this.

How can they do this??? They just can. This is administrative and due process does not apply here.

Heck if you don't care then pass the buck and let sissy pay it. After all it is her diploma and her transcripts anyway.

[dcee53]

Originally Posted by Wirelessany1

How can they do this??? They just can. This is administrative and due process does not apply here.

Heck if you don't care then pass the buck and let sissy pay it. After all it is her diploma and her transcripts anyway.

Wow, that is some great legal advice. You must have gone to Harvard Law School with answers like that. By the way, my sister got her degree more than a decade ago. They can't take that away from her.

[Stevef]

Originally Posted by dcee53

Wow, that is some great legal advice. You must have gone to Harvard Law School with answers like that. By the way, my sister got her degree more than a decade ago. They can't take that away from her.

They can't take that away from her, bit they are under no legal obligation to supply transcripts.

Now, if she helps them, by taking responsibility for her trespassing brother, maybe they'll be nice and send out those transcripts the next time she wants them.
Keep in mind that you were trespassing when you failed to follow their rules while you were in their campus. They can take you to court for trespassing. It sounds like they have found more leverage instead.

[dcee53]

Originally Posted by Stevef

They can't take that away from her, bit they are under no legal obligation to supply transcripts.

Now, if she helps them, by taking responsibility for her trespassing brother, maybe they'll be nice and send out those transcripts the next time she wants them.
Keep in mind that you were trespassing when you failed to follow their rules while you were in their campus. They can take you to court for trespassing. It sounds like they have found more leverage instead.

Actually this is a state (public) university so actually I wasn't and could not be charged with trespassing. If this was a private instituation you might have a point.

[cyjeff]

Originally Posted by dcee53

My question is how can my sister, who has nothing to do with the situation, legally be responsible for something that I did?

Just from your tone, I am guessing this isn't the first crime you committed that she paid for...

But they matched the car parked to the address... and the address matched your sister.

You could, of course, man up, go to the university and explain it... but then you would have to pay the ticket.

You can't charge a sibling with a robbery that you commit on your own

This is a parking ticket. Therefore, they don't know WHO was driving and are going by the registration.

Oh, and what legal recourse does a university have to get a parking fine from someone. I would love to hear the response for this

Well, so far, the legal recourse seems to be the withholding of transcripts.

Also, on what grounds can you assume that I agreed to be bound by their rules and regulations? The rules of a college campus are no more legally bounding than the rules of a private residence.

The term is "binding". As in a legal compulsion to do something.

Ask your sister how legally binding it is.