Difficult to find details on parking sign placement- Los Angeles
I'm in Los Angeles, CA and I haven't been able to find anything giving the exact regulations for where parking signs must be posted in LA municipal code or California Vehicle Code. I got a street sweeping citation (marked in violation of LA Muni Code 80.69BS) and I was researching this because I think the sign is an unreasonable distance away and I parked after an alleyway before a large, commercial driveway thus making the sign before it less obvious. My spot was a parking meter spot (I put money in), the only curb space between this alley and an entrance to a restaurant parking lot. This was an honest "mistake." I do have to check the sign to see if it is noted that it applies for the whole street or between signs.
So according to CVC 22507.6 (for street sweeping), the sign must be posted anywhere one might pass from an intersection of streets not being swept today and into one being swept today. That's a rewording, so I might be missing something. This could apply to the original post if this is true for signage of any no-parking zone. This could apply to me in that an alleyway is a street (right? the CVC definition of street is below) and a new sign should be posted since I could enter the area from the alleyway. Driveways of any size or other breaks in the curb would not require a sign. You could have just one sign per block or less if there is no possible change in zone upon entering the street. I do remember seeing "reasonable" somewhere in my reading though. I am going to try to appeal the ticket based on my "an alleyway is a street" argument and will try to remember to post the results.
If anyone has any helpful details or clarification, please help. There was a different post on this from 2007, so there are at least a couple frustrated people out there. Thanks,
----Patrick------
In CVC 22507.6:Local Regulations: Street Sweeping; Commercial Vehicles
"Local authorities may, by ordinance or resolution, prohibit or restrict the parking or standing of vehicles on designated streets or highways, or portions thereof, for the purpose of street sweeping. ... No such ordinance or resolution shall be effective until the street or highway, or portion thereof, has been sign-posted in accordance with the uniform standards and specifications of the Department of Transportation, or local authorities have caused to be posted in a conspicuous place at each entrance to the street a notice not less than 17 inches by 22 inches in size, with lettering not less than one inch in height, setting forth the day or days and hours parking is prohibited. As used in this section, "entrance" means the intersection of any street or streets comprising an area of restricted parking for street-sweeping purposes on the same day or days and hours with another street or highway not subject to such a parking restriction, or subject to parking restrictions on different days and hours."
CVC 590. "Street" is a way or place of whatever nature, publicly maintained and open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel. Street includes highway.
LA Muni code
The code I violated:
LAMC 80.69 (b) Parking Prohibited. Whenever authorized signs are in place giving notice that parking, as defined in Section 463 of the California Vehicle Code, is prohibited at any time or during certain hours, it shall be unlawful for any person to park any vehicle during such prohibited times, except as provided in Section 88.01.1 of this chapter. (Amended by Ord. No. 170,019, Eff. 10/21/94.)
SEC. 80.55. DEPARTMENT MAY PROHIBIT STOPPING OR PARKING AT CERTAIN DESIGNATED LOCATIONS.
(b) The department shall designate such places by appropriate signs or markings, and no person shall thereafter stop or park any vehicle at such place.