Handicap Parking

[reactive]

Some people here seem to like ridiculing others. If I knew how to complain to a moderator and knew that he or she is not one of those people, I'd have done it already. In lieu of that, the best revenge is to get the ticket dismissed. Just as parking enforcement should not have to search for the placard, you should have not search for the amount you are wanted to pay.

[justalayman]

Originally Posted by HomeGuru

**A: I liked the sending a check in the amount of zero idea better.

reminds me of that story of the guy that was sent a red light camera photo and ticket. He responded with a pic of a check for the fine. The courts responded with a pic a a set of handcuffs. He got the idea.

Originally Posted by pg-123

Gee I_Got_Banned I guess your wife, if you have one, has never made a simple mistake like this??? Why are they targeting people who go to the store for milk and eggs. It was an honest oversight on her part, she didn't think..hmmm maybe I will just not put it up there today. Have you never got out of the car and maybe left the window down?

They targeted a person for not following the law. I don't think it had anything to do with milk or eggs.

Originally Posted by reactive

Some people here seem to like ridiculing others. If I knew how to complain to a moderator and knew that he or she is not one of those people, I'd have done it already. In lieu of that, the best revenge is to get the ticket dismissed. Just as parking enforcement should not have to search for the placard, you should have not search for the amount you are wanted to pay.

you click on the small red triangle in the upper right portion of the post window of the posting you want to complain about. That will take you to a screen where you can type in whatever you want and send it to a moderator.


Did anybody ever think the OP MUST go to court for this and this is why the amount is not included? I don't know but I would think it a possibility.

[I_Got_Banned]

Originally Posted by reactive

In lieu of that, the best revenge is to get the ticket dismissed.

How would that be "revenge"?

You make it sound like anybody on here gets a residual every time a citation is paid!

[The Occultist]

Originally Posted by reactive

Some people here seem to like ridiculing others. If I knew how to complain to a moderator and knew that he or she is not one of those people, I'd have done it already. In lieu of that, the best revenge is to get the ticket dismissed. Just as parking enforcement should not have to search for the placard, you should have not search for the amount you are wanted to pay.

And some people don't like accepting advice that they don't wish to hear, regardless of whether or not the advice is correct.

[reactive]

There's definitely some strange pleasure here in the unhelpful replies. I don't know - maybe those who have paid tickets before don't want to see others escape paying theirs or they just like feeling smarter than other people.

I've only been here a few days, but it seems like most threads are requests for advice on how to avoid punishments that arguably are undeserved or excessive. They are not requests such as, "Should I fight it or not?" Most people likely already know that there are lawful ways to fight without risk of penalty and that they might not win. "FreeAdvice" in the sub-forum shouldn't be thinly veiled unsolicited criticism, "Suck it up, stupid." Can't we be supportive to each other?

[justalayman]

Originally Posted by reactive

There's definitely some strange pleasure here in the unhelpful replies. I don't know - maybe those who have paid tickets before don't want to see others escape paying theirs or they just like feeling smarter than other people.

I've only been here a few days, but it seems like most threads are requests for advice on how to avoid punishments that arguably are undeserved or excessive. They are not requests such as, "Should I fight it or not?" Most people likely already know that there are lawful ways to fight without risk of penalty and that they might not win. "FreeAdvice" in the sub-forum shouldn't be thinly veiled unsolicited criticism, "Suck it up, stupid." Can't we be supportive to each other?

do you really believe what you are posting? In this thread, OP's wife admittedly did not have placard properly displayed and righteously received a ticket.

My Wife parked in a handicap spot at local Wal-Mart and forgot to hang her placard sign on rearview mirror.

Now, don't forget, the law requires one to display the placard in a specific manner.

Now, rather than asking something that many would see as reasonable such as;

she does actually have a legal use for the placard and simply forgot to hang it, does anybody think the courts may be lenient if she explains she forgot to hang the thing?

But NNNNNNNOOOOOOO!!!! (in John Belushi's voice)

He asks, since a fine was not included on the ticket, is it invalid and can my wife escpape all penalties.

The space on the ticket where the fine should be written is blank. Doesn't this mean the ticket is invalid?

Not only that, but for some reason the OP believes the courts owe him a living and HE should not have to make any attempt to ascertain the fine involved.

I should not have to chase the court to get this info as I would think it is up to them to put the fine on the ticket.

Just a note here; the fines are not even included on tickets where I live.

and lo and behold, the first response received is a common sense answer:

Call the court and ask.
Better yet, have your WIFE call the court and ask

followed quickly by the OP's belligerence:

ticket says to pay the minimum amount shown... well that is zero so why should we call them? I feel like sending them a check for 0.00.

followed by a tit for tat with a couple posters with continued belliegerence on the OP's part.

So, rather than following simple directions, OP has turned his thread into a "OP has a holier than thou attitude" so we, who are giving free advice, and proper advice I might add, simply see no value in his ignorance and as such, let loose a bit and enjoy ourselves. If a person comes here asking for legal answers (mind you, that does not mean "how do I escape a righteous ticket, charge, jail sentence, or whatever") is going to be provided with assistance if those responding believe the charges were righteous. We here make an attempt to assist justice, not escape from justice.

and you want to defend such a person? I guess that really speaks volumes about you.

Did you follow my directions on how to notify a moderator of posts violating the TOS? You are welcome to report any posts you believe are problematic.

[I_Got_Banned]

reactive, you make a couple of good points however, keep a few things in mind....

Originally Posted by reactive

There's definitely some strange pleasure here in the unhelpful replies.

What's even stranger is the sense of entitlement to a break when one clearly does not deserve one... A "yeah, I was wrong but I deserve a break because... well... because it's 'ME'" will get you nowhere but frustrated and will get you there sooner or later.

Originally Posted by reactive

I've only been here a few days, but it seems like most threads are requests for advice on how to avoid punishments

Spend enough time on here and you're bound to see quite a few "Do I have a case?" threads as well.

Originally Posted by reactive

punishments that arguably are undeserved or excessive.

Undeserved? If there is a description of the violation committed followed by some sort of penalty, then it is not undeserved. (Example: "Improper display of handicapped tag" versus "hmmm maybe I will just not put it up there today").

excessive? Fines are not set by Senior members of the FreeAdvice Forum. They are either set by the legislature of by the courts. You can contact your state legilature for a change in those amounts... And until then, if you "do the crime, pay the fine"... That applies to you, me and every one on here and elsewhere, equally and indiscriminately!!!

Lastly, there is no magical wand that you are afforded by signing onto this forum or anywhere else for that matter. Reality sucks sometimes and more often than not, the more you whine about it, the more frustrated you will get yourself and the less sympathy that you will get from others. So if this thread or any other one got a bit into the realm of bluntness or the "suck it up and move on" arena, it is not because of the advice given.

[I_Got_Banned]

Originally Posted by justalayman

But NNNNNNNOOOOOOO!!!! (in John Belushi's voice)

Very well done impresson, justalayman!

[reactive]

Originally Posted by I_Got_Banned

Undeserved? If there is a description of the violation committed followed by some sort of penalty, then it is not undeserved. (Example: "Improper display of handicapped tag" versus "hmmm maybe I will just not put it up there today").

His wife made a mistake that was obviously dumb*. Other cases, like mine, are closer to the idea of a speeding ticket for going 28 instead of 25. Not many such tickets are given, though technically the law could be enforced that way. Equal of enforcement of the law, you know.

excessive? Fines are not set by Senior members of the FreeAdvice Forum. They are either set by the legislature of by the courts. You can contact your state legilature for a change in those amounts... And until then, if you "do the crime, pay the fine"... That applies to you, me and every one on here and elsewhere, equally and indiscriminately!!!

Nobody said the forum sets the penalties. Also, let's face it - the government will not lower fines even if many, many people complain. "Excessive" is a reason why people want to contest fines, though, and a reasonable reader can determine whether the punishment might exceed the crime (possibly the case here) and may therefore accept some whininess.

Whininess of a post is not an excuse to break expected rules of forum behavior. Even if whininess weren't allowed I've yet to see someone whining a lot about a correctly written ticket for, say, parking directly in front of a well-lit fire hydrant. In other words, I haven't seen wishes for ridiculous breaks, and I assume that virtually everyone here, including me, has previously paid a deserved ticket.

*But if the local law requires the amount to be listed on the ticket, as implied but not proven by the "Pay this amount" text, then there likely is an improper hassle and the ticket should be dismissed. Government must be obey its laws. As in the court system, whether the person getting off committed the violation or is a jerk is irrelevant.

Finally, if people want to act like jerks with me and go over the line, then I'll report them.

[IsabellaSoriano]

Originally Posted by I_Got_Banned

excessive? Fines are not set by Senior members of the FreeAdvice Forum.

NO?? bummer.

[Antigone*of*Greece]

Originally Posted by justalayman

do you really believe what you are posting? In this thread, OP's wife admittedly did not have placard properly displayed and righteously received a ticket.



Now, don't forget, the law requires one to display the placard in a specific manner.

Now, rather than asking something that many would see as reasonable such as;

she does actually have a legal use for the placard and simply forgot to hang it, does anybody think the courts may be lenient if she explains she forgot to hang the thing?

But NNNNNNNOOOOOOO!!!! (in John Belushi's voice)

He asks, since a fine was not included on the ticket, is it invalid and can my wife escpape all penalties.


Not only that, but for some reason the OP believes the courts owe him a living and HE should not have to make any attempt to ascertain the fine involved.



Just a note here; the fines are not even included on tickets where I live.

and lo and behold, the first response received is a common sense answer:



followed quickly by the OP's belligerence:


followed by a tit for tat with a couple posters with continued belliegerence on the OP's part.

So, rather than following simple directions, OP has turned his thread into a "OP has a holier than thou attitude" so we, who are giving free advice, and proper advice I might add, simply see no value in his ignorance and as such, let loose a bit and enjoy ourselves. If a person comes here asking for legal answers (mind you, that does not mean "how do I escape a righteous ticket, charge, jail sentence, or whatever") is going to be provided with assistance if those responding believe the charges were righteous. We here make an attempt to assist justice, not escape from justice.

and you want to defend such a person? I guess that really speaks volumes about you.

Did you follow my directions on how to notify a moderator of posts violating the TOS? You are welcome to report any posts you believe are problematic.

Just, hold up your hand to your monitor. HIGH FIVE to you Mr. all the way from the capital of the world.

[justalayman]

Originally Posted by reactive

*But if the local law requires the amount to be listed on the ticket, as implied but not proven by the "Pay this amount" text, then there likely is an improper hassle and the ticket should be dismissed. Government must be obey its laws. As in the court system, whether the person getting off committed the violation or is a jerk is irrelevant.
.

well, just because there is a line of the ticket that would allow the inclusion of a fine, that in no way implies that it is required and guess what, OP was given the suggestion to

call the court

to investigate this.


Unless you want to take the time to research the possibility regarding the line on the ticket, I suggest it now becomes a non-issue and for the current situation, now be ignored.

If you can prove that it is a requirement for the proper formation of a ticket, then post it here and I would suspect that it will be accepted that the ticket is invalid. That still does not mean we have to acknowledge that what the OP's wife did was correct because it wasn't. If she gets off on a technicality, so be it but remember, most people believe OJ got off on a technicality as well. He is still a hated man.

[justalayman]

Originally Posted by Wirelessany1

Just, hold up your hand to your monitor. HIGH FIVE to you Mr. all the way from the capital of the world.

at least capital of the US today. We had Mr. O a couple miles down the street today. He just left in his big ol' airplane.

[reactive]

Good idea. I've just spent a few minutes looking for the answer, without success. The idea of calling was to find the amount to pay it; that was not a friendly suggestion nor anything the couple needed to be told. I'm not sure calling will yield the answer to whether the law states the amount must be on the ticket.

[Country Living]

Originally Posted by reactive

Good idea. I've just spent a few minutes looking for the answer, without success. The idea of calling was to find the amount to pay it; that was not a friendly suggestion nor anything the couple needed to be told. I'm not sure calling will yield the answer to whether the law states the amount must be on the ticket.

You're kidding....right?