casperlcaf said:
Yes I did post a ticket for expired plate but I didn’t get one that was a hypothetical scenario maybe I should have regrettably said a broken headlight, wouldn’t matter.
Well, a broken headlight would be an obvious violation.
The reason I posted this, this time is when I was much younger, I was constantly pulled over, now that I’m considerably older I’m not about to tolerate it because I simply have a out of state plate and that’s exactly the reason, I’m to old to be intimated.
To pull you over an officer needs reasonable suspcion to believe you are somehow involved in criminal activity. He can't simply pull you over in order to run your plates. But, since he can do that without pulling you over, there wouldn't be any need.
So I would chill out when an Officer of the law actually had a different attitude than simply boredom and harassing an out of state LEGAL plate in this instance.
If it is legal, then there is nothing to worry about, is there? It's never a good idea for an officer to cite for another state's plates unless they can show they are expired or the officer KNOWS the state's rules for which the officer is citing. There is case law in CA to this effect and officers have lost good criminal cases based upon bad stops involving misunderstandings of other state's laws.
Victim of what? Harassment, boredom to simply state "suspicion" and leave it at that is ridiculous and if you think its proactive then so is giving your DNA to the Federal Government at birth why stop there with proactive, we should be cloning perfect humans to erase diseases.
Issues involving giving up DNA at birth and cloning is a far, far cry from running license plates on a public street.
This can easily be debated on and on, on both sides. If you have done this as normal procedure I’m quite sure you’ve found nothing on more than one instance.
Of course. But all because I have found nothing does not make the practice illegal, immoral, fattening, or otherwise wrong.
I have also found that alarm calls tend to be false 99% of the time. I guess we shouldn't respond to alarms anymore ... after all, only about 1 in 100 is valid. I have a better chance of finding a wanted criminal, suspended driver, or bad registration making random checks of license plates and known drivers than I do for alarm calls.
Just because someone doesn’t complain doesn’t mean they are happy about having their time wasted.
How is it wasting your time if I run your plates while we are both driving?
As for bases not sure what ones you are referring to I’ve covered quite a few in 8 yrs, the only time plates or cars get randomly ran (or searched for that matter) on a military instillation is at the gate, or under suspicion of theft or terrorism.
I dunno ... I knew quite a few. Maybe the Marines do it differently. Or, maybe the policies vary by base or by state.
I won’t doubt the statement other bases do, since I can not claim I’ve been to them all and I would suspect it would also be dependant on which branch controlled and authorizes police officers on that base.
Sure.
"The only people that get upset about being run by the cops for "no apparent reason" are the people who get caught in violation of the law."
(I won’t even waste time replying to this statement other than by saying.....absurd, typical statement and simply not true).
Well, if I run your plates and there is nothing wrong, you would never know I did it, and you would never have a beef with it. The only people that raise a stink about it are those that get caught.
On that note post away, I will no longer post on this topic since it was answered. I will say this, we all bleed the same color, and treat people respectfully as you would like to be.
I do just that. I have never had a beef for attitude, demeanor, etc. Been doing it for 15 years and have managed to avoid any kind of attitude complaint and only one use of force allegation that was determined to be "unfounded" (i.e. it didn't happen - which it didn't).
So, if you don't like cops running your plate or even your name when you are tooling along in your car, speak to your local legislators or law enforcement officials. Legally, it is permissable. Politically, it can go any way.
- Carl