PARKED OVER TIME LIMIT : i don't think so?

[bettyklang]

I'm in CA, in Los Angeles specifically.

I normally have to park about 10 minutes from my apartment because there is no parking and all the streets that you could park on have have "2 hours" signs (which are ridiculous and a waste of petrol if you ask me, why move your car 50 feet every 2 hours?)

So, I was parked like this today and @ 11am I was ticketed. The arrow on the sign specifically points to the left and I'm parked on the right of the sign near an intersection. I thought perhaps this was the last parking spot left within 10 minutes of home...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3415/...21125c95_b.jpgWhat is the name of your state (CA)?

I know that if I contest I will be sent a reply that says I was denied, and they'll ask me to send in the $ and then take their sweet time reviewing my case. But...it seems I'm not violating the law?

[CdwJava]

What is the code section for the violation?

- Carl

[justalayman]

so what is that red line that starts back by the sidewalk crosswalk and runs up beside your car?




could it possibly be that by default there is no parking unless designated in your community and the sign would point to an area where is was legal during the times posted?

[bettyklang]

MC 80.69C

comments: sp 2hr pkg 8am-6pm exc. sunday npv obs 0845

[bettyklang]

Originally Posted by justalayman

so what is that red line that starts back by the sidewalk crosswalk and runs up beside your car?




could it possibly be that by default there is no parking unless designated in your community and the sign would point to an area where is was legal during the times posted?

the red curb stops about a foot before my car. I park close to it to leave parking spaces for others in front of me...

the streets running south to north have permit parking... this street, which runs east west doesn't have permit parking...it has splotches of 2 hour parking signs, 1 hour parking, no signs... People who live there decide if they dont want others to park in front of their homes and petition to the city.

[CourtClerk]

It appears to me that you are parked legally. However, fighting it will be interesting. The LA PVB is ruthless.

[I_Got_Banned]

Originally Posted by bettyklang

MC 80.69C

comments: sp 2hr pkg 8am-6pm exc. sunday npv obs 0845

Maybe there was a sign on the other side of the street with an arrow pointing to the side where you parked?

I'm just kidding.... I see your point... The sign points to the other side of the street which as far as you are concerned, the side you parked on is not restricted.

With that being said, However, you did leave out one important detail... You did mention you were cited at 11:00 but what time did you park in that spot.

Just by looking at the comments that you posted, I assume that the 8:45 was the time when the parking enforcement officer "observed" (and hence the "obs" in comments) you parking or it was when he/she drove by and "chaulked" your tire. 8:45 + 2:00 hrs = 10:45 and you were cited at 11:00 or 15 minutes over the 2 hour limit.

Anyhow, here is LAMC 80.69

Los Angeles Municipal Code:
Section 80.69
Whenever, with reference to any street or portion thereof, the Department determines that:

(1) the same is within a business district; or
(2) because of proximity to a business district or center of employment; or
(3) because of an unusual concentration of population; or
(4) because vehicles which are six feet or more in height (including any load thereon) parked within 100 feet of an intersection limit the visibility of approaching traffic and thereby create a hazard; or
(5) because of any other factor or condition, the unrestricted parking of vehicles has caused, or would necessarily cause, traffic congestion, create a hazard, detrimentally affect the public welfare, or deprive the public of the efficient use of available curb space, the Department is hereby authorized to install at any such place signs giving notice that no person shall stand, stop or park a vehicle except as provided on such signs. The Department is further authorized to include notice on any sign which prohibits the stopping or parking of vehicles, that vehicles parked or left standing in violation of such sign may be removed.

(Amended by Ord. No. 161,645, Eff. 10/17/86.)

Section "C' of that code section further says:

(c) Parking Time Limits.
Whenever authorized signs are in place giving notice thereof, it shall be unlawful for any person to stop or stand or park any vehicle for a period of time in excess of the parking time limit indicated by such sign, except as provided in Section 88.01.1 of this chapter.

(Amended by Ord. No. 170,019, Eff. 10/21/94.)


PS: If I were you, I would delete the picture showing which intersection you were parked at. It proves nothing and ... well, you can never be careful enough!

[I_Got_Banned]

Originally Posted by CourtClerk

[b]The LA PVB is ruthless.

Their track record is questionable to say the least...

[url=http://cbs2.com/goldstein/Parking.Tickets.LA.2.1013794.html]Thousands Of Parking Tickets Issued Erroneously In Los Angeles Area - cbs2.com[/url]

[CourtClerk]

Originally Posted by I_Got_Banned

Their track record is questionable to say the least...

[url=http://cbs2.com/goldstein/Parking.Tickets.LA.2.1013794.html]Thousands Of Parking Tickets Issued Erroneously In Los Angeles Area - cbs2.com[/url]

I saw the story on the news last night.

Funny because years ago I got a street sweeping ticket. There were NO SIGNS on the street indicating street sweeping day. I photographed BOTH sides of the entire block... still lost.

[reactive]

I wonder if this thread went well due to male deference to females. If so, then please incorrectly assume that most other people asking for help are females

It seems to me that being cited for parking for more than two hours is what happened. Kind of a raw deal in a residential neighborhood when there is a shortage of permit parking. Not long ago, I heard that moving the car to another spot technically solves nothing, because the two hours applies within the zone (blocks or more) rather than just the spot. Edit: but, yes, the arrow suggests she was parked in a spot where the vehicle could be legally parked for more than two hours. Then good luck using the photo to get out of that. Maybe, for instance, lack of a VIN on the ticket would be more useful to your case.

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by reactive

Maybe, for instance, lack of a VIN on the ticket would be more useful to your case.

Yeah, or maybe the tooth fairy was in the neighborhood and could testify. I'm sure either of these two options are equally viable

[bettyklang]

a few months ago, the man who lives in the house in the photo saw a meter maid giving him a ticket and when he pointed to the arrow on the sign, the meter maid proceeded to climb the light pole and attempt to draw an arrow
i should ask him how his case turned out...

i deleted the photo btw. although i do think the PVB will like to see the street address sign, its probably not best to identify my location

[The Occultist]

Originally Posted by reactive

I wonder if this thread went well due to male deference to females.

The thread went well because the OP wasn't fighting the posters.

[reactive]

The first replies wouldn't have provoked a fight with anyone.

Her story about the 'meter maid' trying to draw an arrow troubles me. I'm waiting for more information. I am also waiting to learn if my VIN ploy can worrk.

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by reactive

I am also waiting to learn if my VIN ploy can worrk.

There is no legal requirement that the VIN be on the ticket (deja-vu)