parking ticketSSS

[CarFreak]

What is the name of your state? MO saint Louis county

Okay, so my house is facing a "T" intersection. I got tickets for parking within 30 feet of an intersection. I can't find the violation number anywhere online.

Okay well, first off, we've parked there for 10 years and no problems.

secondly, Our driveway is across from the intersection, thus when we park at the bottom of the driveway, thats within 30 feet of the intersection.

How far in front of your yard is does your property extend?

what can I do? Do I have any argument? This is the second ticket I got like that.

oh yeah, and my car was only there for about 2 hours when they gave me those tickets, so it was not in excess of 48 hours, does that make any difference?

[Zigner]

Congratulations on your ticket-free parking for 10 years. Unfortunately, it was also illegal, even though you weren't cited.
What code section violation were you actually cited for?

[CarFreak]

its 1207.040.

We live in a small old subdivision, no sidewalks.

Does property not extend into the street? Is the street public domain, can I park in front of anyones house?

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by CarFreak

its 1207.040.

We live in a small old subdivision, no sidewalks.

Does property not extend into the street? Is the street public domain, can I park in front of anyones house?

I wasn't able to find that code section.
The street is public - anyone can park there.
Generally, you don't have exclusive use of property if it extends in to the street.
Why does this matter?

[CarFreak]

if you weren't able to find the code? Where can I try to find it?? Could they have just made it up because I know my old neighbors are calling the police because they are trying to sell their house, and I feel I'm being harassed. (there are plenty of other people in the subdivision who park within 30 feet of an intersection and have never gotten ticketed)

So the street being public domain is good and bad. If it weren't, then parking in front of my house should not be a violation since its my property right??

However, if it is public domain, then that means I can park in front of my A$$hole neighbor's house which would be more than 30ft away and they can't do anything. So that'd make me feel a little better about having to pay tickets.

However, can I argue harassment if i show proof that cops did not ticket other violators, would it even matter if I did?

Also, they did not write a court date on my ticket it just says "TVB" what does that mean?

Drama Pt. 2
Also, I had my boat there for a few days while I was working on it, and they gave me a ticket for the trailer, parking uninterrupted leaking hazardous fluids (oil). Okay, first off, how can a trailer leak oil? Secondly, how can an inboard engine leak oil anywhere but inside the boat? Thirdly, they put a removal notice on my boat, with the infraction for the trailer, that really pissed me off since I just detailed my boat. So, could I argue, or counter sue for destruction of property since they didn't put the sticker on the trailer for which the violation was written and ruined my detail??

see what I mean about harassment? I mean, i think they could have just said, hey, its illegal to park in the intersection move your car, rather then write me 4 tickets out of nowhere. 10 years and never a problem....

btw, they got me fired up so I definitely don't mind stirring up pointless stuff to make a point.

[Zigner]

You have not been harassed. You violated the law (several times, apparently) and were cited.
Yes, you can park in front of your neighbor's house.

[patstew]

[quote=CarFreak;1709471]Okay well, first off, we've parked there for 10 years and no problems.

what can I do? Do I have any argument? This is the second ticket I got like that.
Which is it, then -- you've had no problems, or you got another ticket like it before?

[CarFreak]

i suppose I could have explained that one better.

I got one ticket last week for the 30feet from an intersection (along with my boat problem) I moved my car back, they came back yesterday and gave me another one. (even though I was probably 30ft away, or what looked to me to be 30 ft.)

these are coming out of nowhere due to my neighbors.

And because this is only happening to me, no one else in the subdivision is getting ticketed for the same thing, is why I feel I am being harassed, as they are targeting me.

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by CarFreak

i suppose I could have explained that one better.

I got one ticket last week for the 30feet from an intersection (along with my boat problem) I moved my car back, they came back yesterday and gave me another one. (even though I was probably 30ft away, or what looked to me to be 30 ft.)

these are coming out of nowhere due to my neighbors.

And because this is only happening to me, no one else in the subdivision is getting ticketed for the same thing, is why I feel I am being harassed, as they are targeting me.

Responding to complaints does not amount to harassment.
Look - park your cars where it's legal - problem solved. Honestly, you knew when you bought your property that this would be a concern (rather, you SHOULD have known - your fault if you weren't diligent...)

[CarFreak]

I understand your point, and thus, I know the old adage of ignorance is no defense from the law. But I was never aware it was illegal to park within 30 ft of an intersection. If no one has ever complained before, and I have had no problems or tickets in 10 years, how else would I know??

regardless, what does "TVB" mean on a ticket for the court date?

[The Occultist]

Originally Posted by CarFreak

But I was never aware it was illegal to park within 30 ft of an intersection.

That information tends to be included in the most basic of drivers manuals.

[CarFreak]

well according to the Missouri drivers manual, it just says don't park in an intersection??? I guess I really don't' get what that means exactly. But it gives no distance specifications.

[CarFreak]

Its definitely worth my time to fight the tickets since each one is 77.50 for a parking ticket.

I am going to take pictures of the 5 main parking violations in my subdivision that are there EVERY DAY because this is baseless.

Furthermore, May I ask what proof the officer has that I was parked within the specified limit?? I saw him, and he did not measure. If I got a speeding ticket, I can ask to see the radar gun. I want to see his measurement (which I know he could not provide.) It seems like its my word against his with no evidence. What if the officer is not in court to defend the case?

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by CarFreak

I am going to take pictures of the 5 main parking violations in my subdivision that are there EVERY DAY because this is baseless.[/quote}

Yeah, take pics in and say "See they all park illegally like I did"

[quote}Furthermore, May I ask what proof the officer has that I was parked within the specified limit?? I saw him, and he did not measure.

The state has an expert witness.

If I got a speeding ticket, I can ask to see the radar gun.

Sure, you can ASK

[The Occultist]

Originally Posted by CarFreak

If I got a speeding ticket, I can ask to see the radar gun.

Actually, the officer is not obligated to show you the lock on the radar gun (not even always required to lock in a speed at all). In fact, most officer will NOT show you the gun as it could present a safety issue.