AngryHumanoid
Junior Member
Centerville City, Utah
Davis County
Hi, this may get lengthy because I've been doing a lot of research on this. Here is the short version: got an overnight parking citation, ordinance in question says "No overnight parking on city streets between November 15th and April 15th", the reason is for snow plows but A- the law is too broad/it wasn't snowing, and B- the city may have violated their own zoning ordinances by failing to ensure my apartment complex would provide enough parking spaces.
Long version: vehicle was parked overnight on the street of a dead end road, citation was issued at 3am (left on the windshield). It did not snow at all that night or the next day, I have data from several weather historical websites which will confirm that. I also confirmed with Public Works that they had no plows in operation that night. Having said that the ordinance doesn't list any exceptions: it says no overnight parking period. However, I researched similar laws in the surrounding cities and found none of them have an equally long restriction on overnight parking (most go from November to February). Also, my city lists on its website the plowing priorities which state that dead end roads will not be plowed unless there is 4 inches or more of snowfall, AND said plowing will not take place until the following business day. This means that they are restricting parking over a 5 month period when the street in question will RARELY be plowed, and then never overnight.
Second issue: the lack of parking is a known issue in the area. City zoning guidelines call for a certain number of parking spaces based on the number of bedrooms at the complex. I don't have the exact numbers yet but the complex is DEFINITELY well under. The reason is because one of the other zoning laws basically says the guidelines can be completely ignored if a proper study is done to prove they will not be needed, OR if shared parking is available nearby. The issues with that are:
A- so far no one at city hall can confirm whether a study was done to allow a lower number of spaces.
B- no one at city hall can confirm whether shared parking was negotiated with the surrounding private business parking lots.
C- when I asked the police about the issue they told me I should have parked on the dirt off the road south of the complex (which many people do), however during my research I found that parking on the dirt IS an violation of zoning ordinances unless an exception has been granted for the specific parcel of land in question. No one at city hall can confirm whether such an exception has been granted.
D- when I asked the apartment complex people about all this they explicitly said that I was not allowed to park in the lots nearby and they've always told people to park on the street when necessary.
E- when I asked the 1 business in the area that's open (the others are still under construction) whether residents of the complex were allowed to park in their lot they said no and that cars parked overnight may be towed.
F- zoning regulations DO allow for an exception to be made to the no overnight parking laws, which it seems to me should be granted for the street in question.
Regardless of my belief that I have a strong argument the crux of the matter is this: I need to go to traffic court to argue this and I do not know the legal procedures involved. Can I go to traffic court, state that I am not guilty and lay all this out, or is this outside the purview of traffic court? If the judge says "None of that matters, you parked on the street overnight, pay the fine" can I appeal the decision to a court that WOULD have the power to overturn this? Would I have to sue the city to get them to change the laws or grant the exception to allow parking on the street? Do you think I have a good enough argument period? And last, and possibly the most important question: is it really worth my time to push this as far as I can to get out of a $30 dollar citation/however much my insurance will go up? Thanks in advance to anyone who actually makes it through to the end of this...
Davis County
Hi, this may get lengthy because I've been doing a lot of research on this. Here is the short version: got an overnight parking citation, ordinance in question says "No overnight parking on city streets between November 15th and April 15th", the reason is for snow plows but A- the law is too broad/it wasn't snowing, and B- the city may have violated their own zoning ordinances by failing to ensure my apartment complex would provide enough parking spaces.
Long version: vehicle was parked overnight on the street of a dead end road, citation was issued at 3am (left on the windshield). It did not snow at all that night or the next day, I have data from several weather historical websites which will confirm that. I also confirmed with Public Works that they had no plows in operation that night. Having said that the ordinance doesn't list any exceptions: it says no overnight parking period. However, I researched similar laws in the surrounding cities and found none of them have an equally long restriction on overnight parking (most go from November to February). Also, my city lists on its website the plowing priorities which state that dead end roads will not be plowed unless there is 4 inches or more of snowfall, AND said plowing will not take place until the following business day. This means that they are restricting parking over a 5 month period when the street in question will RARELY be plowed, and then never overnight.
Second issue: the lack of parking is a known issue in the area. City zoning guidelines call for a certain number of parking spaces based on the number of bedrooms at the complex. I don't have the exact numbers yet but the complex is DEFINITELY well under. The reason is because one of the other zoning laws basically says the guidelines can be completely ignored if a proper study is done to prove they will not be needed, OR if shared parking is available nearby. The issues with that are:
A- so far no one at city hall can confirm whether a study was done to allow a lower number of spaces.
B- no one at city hall can confirm whether shared parking was negotiated with the surrounding private business parking lots.
C- when I asked the police about the issue they told me I should have parked on the dirt off the road south of the complex (which many people do), however during my research I found that parking on the dirt IS an violation of zoning ordinances unless an exception has been granted for the specific parcel of land in question. No one at city hall can confirm whether such an exception has been granted.
D- when I asked the apartment complex people about all this they explicitly said that I was not allowed to park in the lots nearby and they've always told people to park on the street when necessary.
E- when I asked the 1 business in the area that's open (the others are still under construction) whether residents of the complex were allowed to park in their lot they said no and that cars parked overnight may be towed.
F- zoning regulations DO allow for an exception to be made to the no overnight parking laws, which it seems to me should be granted for the street in question.
Regardless of my belief that I have a strong argument the crux of the matter is this: I need to go to traffic court to argue this and I do not know the legal procedures involved. Can I go to traffic court, state that I am not guilty and lay all this out, or is this outside the purview of traffic court? If the judge says "None of that matters, you parked on the street overnight, pay the fine" can I appeal the decision to a court that WOULD have the power to overturn this? Would I have to sue the city to get them to change the laws or grant the exception to allow parking on the street? Do you think I have a good enough argument period? And last, and possibly the most important question: is it really worth my time to push this as far as I can to get out of a $30 dollar citation/however much my insurance will go up? Thanks in advance to anyone who actually makes it through to the end of this...
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