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l_eriksen

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What is the name of your state? NY
I asked this question under the criminal rights section but I think this one is more appropriate. I was wondering if anyone knew if any laws have been enacted to prevent unpatriotic behavior such as THE U.S SEDITION?
 


HomeGuru

Senior Member
l_eriksen said:
What is the name of your state? NY
I asked this question under the criminal rights section but I think this one is more appropriate. I was wondering if anyone knew if any laws have been enacted to prevent unpatriotic behavior such as THE U.S SEDITION?
**A: yes, there are numerous such laws.
 
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l_eriksen

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is that personal

Is that a personal issue? Do you mean you think it is OK to act unpatriotic at our time of war? Please don't get defensive. It is just hard to tell by the tone of your response. How do you know there are such laws?
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
Re: is that personal

l_eriksen said:
Is that a personal issue? Do you mean you think it is OK to act unpatriotic at our time of war? Please don't get defensive. It is just hard to tell by the tone of your response. How do you know there are such laws?

**A: first off, the US has been at was since 9/11 and yes, I am pissed.
Secondly, your broad, vague, ambigious and general term used was "unpatriotic behavior" and was not specifc. We can't read your mind. The scope for such behavior could include and range from flag burning to treason.
And if you are going to second guess me about my knowing these applicable laws, you will not get any help from me.
 
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l_eriksen

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I asked you not to get defensive but I guess you have your reasons. My question was not broad. I asked if you knew anything about THE U.S. SEDITION ACT. If you did than you know what laws I am refering to. If you don't know any similar laws, that's ok too, but you shouldn't have responded to my question. Calm down, take a pill. You said you are angry but you didn't say why? P.S. who is we?
 
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djohnson

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An Act in addition to the act, entitled "An act for the punishment of certain crimes against the United States. "
SEC. I Be it enacted . . ., That if any persons shall unlawfully combine or conspire together, with intent to oppose any measure or measures of the government of the United States, which are or shall be directed by proper authority, or to impede the operation of any law of the United States, or to intimidate or prevent any person holding a place or office in or under the government of the United States, from undertaking, performing or executing his trust or duty; and if any person or persons, with intent as aforesaid, shall counsel, advise or attempt to procure any insurrection, riot. unlawful assembly, or combination, whether such conspiracy, threatening, counsel, advice, or attempt shall have the proposed effect or not, he or they shall be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and on conviction, before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, and by imprisonment during a term not less than six months nor exceeding five years; and further, at the discretion of the court may be holden to find sureties for his good behaviour in such sum, and for such time, as the said court may direct.

SEC. 2. That if any person shall write, print, utter. Or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or published, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or aid in writing, printing, uttering or publishing any false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States, or the President of the United States, with intent to defame the said government, or either house of the said Congress, or the said President, or to bring them. or either of them, into contempt or disrepute; or to excite against them, or either or any of them, the hatred of the good people of the United States, or to excite any unlawful combinations therein, for opposing or resisting any law of the United States, or any act of the President of the United States, done in pursuance of any such law, or of the powers in him vested by the constitution of the United States, or to resist, oppose, or defeat any such law or act, or to aid, encourage or abet any hostile designs of any foreign nation against the United States, their people or government, then such person, being thereof convicted before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars, and by imprisonment not exceeding two years.

SEC. 3. That if any person shall be prosecuted under this act, for the writing or publishing any libel aforesaid, it shall be lawful for the defendant, upon the trial of the cause, to give in evidence in his defence, the truth of the matter contained in the publication charged as a libel. And the jury who shall try the cause, shall have a right to determine the law and the fact, under the direction of the court, as in other cases.

SEC. 4. That this act shall continue to be in force until March 3, 1801, and no longer...





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The we is the people on this board and could also mean the people of USA. The people of this board (at least the educated ones with the knowledge you need) are not going to help an unpatriotic cause. I agree your question is to broad and after rereading the act as you referred to I am still not clear what your specific question is or if you jsut want thoughts on the whole range of things this might cover.
 
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l_eriksen

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What do you mean by unpatriotic cause? You are talking in circles. We meaning the board? Are you saying that everyone on the board is unpatriotic? Maybe you don't understand my cause. I am furthest from being unpatriotic that is why I am asking about the laws. So that I can shut a few people up that are bashing our country. Is that OK with you oh king of the board.
 
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l_eriksen

Guest
I don't think your reading skills are very good for a forum. I think your time might be better spent taking classes or reading books.
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
l_eriksen said:
I don't think your reading skills are very good for a forum. I think your time might be better spent taking classes or reading books.
**A: that's interesting because I teach classes and write books.
 
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l_eriksen

Guest
That's sad. I have pity for the future of your students. Maybe you need a refresher course.
 

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