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JustIceNow

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What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? Maryland

I am a retired Navy currently working as a civilian Information Technology contractor. I have had a security clearance since I was 18 years old In 1996 I had DWI. I retained my clearance and have had no further incidents.

My concern is this. In 2001 my first contracting firm placed me on an assignment requiring a clearance. I was denied access due to the alcohol incident. This did not cause me great concern as there were other openings within the firm with other government agencies. However, due to a diversion in IT funds in 2003, I was laid off, along with number of other employees.

I immediatly started placing my resume on the job web-sites and received immediate interest from numerous government contracting firms searching for cleared IT professionals. After the phone and face-to-face interviews all seemed well but then with no explanation these companys had no further contact with me and would not return my calls. I began to wonder if there was a record on me somewhere in a central database used by these companys' security officers that had adverse information about me.

In an effort to obtain what possible security information about me that I could, I have used my FOIA rights and have obtained information from all but the suspect agency. They say my request in being processed, first come, first served.

Bottom line; I would like to know if there is some central database used by a government contractors security officer's and if so how do I go about obtaining this information.

FYI: I am currently employed with the government and I'm certain agency checks were conducted, yet here I am no questions asked. What gives?
 


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enjay

Member
I can't tell you what every agency does. At my agency, every contract employee is checked through NCIC. One DWI would not affect your potential employment here providing you were honest about it.

There is no centralized database of former or potential contract employees.
 
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dequeendistress

Senior Member
I must expound on enjays post...But...NCIC is pretty damn centralized, don't you think????

Now I wish the writer to tell me who s/he suspects....
 
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enjay

Member
dequeendistress said:
I must expound on enjays post...But...NCIC is pretty damn centralized, don't you think????

Now I wish the writer to tell me who s/he suspects....
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Well, yes, but private companies can't access NCIC. It sounds to me like the writer isn't being picked up by companies who contract with the federal govt and he thinks it's because there's a list of people who won't be considered for government jobs. That's not true.
 
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dequeendistress

Senior Member
Agreed, but let's hope the writer gives us his suspect, ok?

But, if this concerns a level of security needed, NCIC very well MAY BE checked, through a release signed by the prospective employee. (Since we do not know which branch of gov. or exactly what the real deal is here.)

Quite possibly there maybe something within past employee records which is causing this problem.
 
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JustIceNow

Guest
The suspect agency in question is commonly referred to as "No Such Agency".

While in the intell community I worked there on site and abroad. The incident occurred between assignments and with every assignment there, even if you do already have a clearance, there is a cursory investigation. I was told that due to the recency of the incident that some of the criteria for access determination during the adjudication process could not be mitigated. Access denied. I do still have a TS by the way. It is just that this agency denied me access and I am wondering, have I been black-balled in certain circles?
 
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BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
Bottom line; I would like to know if there is some central database used by a government contractors security officer's and if so how do I go about obtaining this information.
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The NSA conducts it's own background checks, including Interpol, NCIC, FBI backgrounds and U.S. Military records checks. They have also been in the forefront of redesigning the common 'interview' checks.

There is more to this story than you are telling us simply because I know for a fact that contractors can and have been cleared to work with NSA even with drug use in their past.

So, what's the rest of the story?

Added: By the way, you'd have more fun watching paint dry than getting any FOI through the NSA. Simply put, they are allowed to play by a completely different set of rules. If you don't like it, contact GWB at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington, D.C.
 
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JustIceNow

Guest
BelizeBreeze said:
The NSA conducts it's own background checks, including Interpol, NCIC, FBI backgrounds and U.S. Military records checks. They have also been in the forefront of redesigning the common 'interview' checks.

***Most agencies do. I've worked at several with no problem but not
as a civilian contractor.


There is more to this story than you are telling us simply because I know for a fact that contractors can and have been cleared to work with NSA even with drug use in their past.

***How far in the past????

***Actually the only additional info to my story is the fact that I was interviewed by the agency's ?shrink? I had a verbal consultation with him then I filled out an electronic questionaire, dealing with alcohol use. I answered all questions truthfully and according to the adjudication letter this shrink came to the conclusion that I was alcohol dependent. (mitigation- abstinence of 1 year or more per the ADR?). I know that I could have lied about my drinking habits but after 21 years of background investigations and polys and seeing people literally escorted out of facilities why take the chance...and I am basically honest.

So, what's the rest of the story?

Added: By the way, you'd have more fun watching paint dry than getting any FOI through the NSA. Simply put, they are allowed to play by a completely different set of rules. If you don't like it, contact GWB at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington, D.C.
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***I don't have the documents yet but I have contacted them. I am approximately fiftyeth in queue and I was told that they are hiring CONTRACTORS to clear their FOIA backlog :-}.
 
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HomeGuru

Senior Member
BelizeBreeze said:
Added: By the way, you'd have more fun watching paint dry than getting any FOI through the NSA.

**A: and why did you not post the link to the watching paint dry website?
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cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
I don't read this particular forum every day so I only just saw this post.

The poster appears to be one of the many I have responded to, who assume that there has to be some giant conspiracy involved in his not getting the employment they want. It's GOT to be because someone is saying something bad about him. It can't be because someone else is as or more qualified for the position.

It never crosses their minds that there are more people looking for work than there are jobs right now. I don't do recruiting any more but my friends that do, report that they are still getting 300 applications for every opening. That means 299 people who apply for a position are not going to get it. I'm no statistition but I can figure those odds.

300 people apply for ONE opening - you do the math.
 
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HomeGuru

Senior Member
cbg said:
I don't read this particular forum every day so I only just saw this post.

The poster appears to be one of the many I have responded to, who assume that there has to be some giant conspiracy involved in his not getting the employment they want. It's GOT to be because someone is saying something bad about him. It can't be because someone else is as or more qualified for the position.

It never crosses their minds that there are more people looking for work than there are jobs right now. I don't do recruiting any more but my friends that do, report that they are still getting 300 applications for every opening. That means 299 people who apply for a position are not going to get it. I'm no statistition but I can figure those odds.

300 people apply for ONE opening - you do the math.
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**A: this is a great response. You go girl.
 
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