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nuke-marine
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What is the name of your state? California, San Diego
Heard about citizens having to produce ID to cops so I thought to turn the tables. Knowing that some people like to impersonate military and police, I decided to ask for ID before conforming to any demands of law enforcements. On the trolley, the trolley cops like everyone to pull out the passes ahead of time so they can stroll through looking for the one guy or gal without. I asked to see their ID first. As I had issue with the lady the previous week, she remembered me. She called for back up and they waited over 10 minutes and 5 stops before confronting me. The one trolley cop that showed ID had a one that expired in 1999 (November). As none wanted to show ID, I did not show my pass which I had. They handcuffed me, drug me off the trolley (I offered no help or hindrance) and charged me with 148 1a (interference with an officer).
Ok, no research yields any case or situation with non-conformity due to lack of police offering identification. Looking at the penalties (1000 dollars or a year in jail) I'm thinking of defense or the ACLU. Ask me, cops should have no problem offering identification upon request if immediate threat is not present. That one "cop" offered expired ID would send alarm bells off in any other situation. Course, I'm in the military which trains you to be scepticle of anything, even someone in uniform.
Advice, questions, concerns? For now, I'll show the pass then ask for ID. So far, the guy seems a little nervous that I took down his info.
Nuke
Heard about citizens having to produce ID to cops so I thought to turn the tables. Knowing that some people like to impersonate military and police, I decided to ask for ID before conforming to any demands of law enforcements. On the trolley, the trolley cops like everyone to pull out the passes ahead of time so they can stroll through looking for the one guy or gal without. I asked to see their ID first. As I had issue with the lady the previous week, she remembered me. She called for back up and they waited over 10 minutes and 5 stops before confronting me. The one trolley cop that showed ID had a one that expired in 1999 (November). As none wanted to show ID, I did not show my pass which I had. They handcuffed me, drug me off the trolley (I offered no help or hindrance) and charged me with 148 1a (interference with an officer).
Ok, no research yields any case or situation with non-conformity due to lack of police offering identification. Looking at the penalties (1000 dollars or a year in jail) I'm thinking of defense or the ACLU. Ask me, cops should have no problem offering identification upon request if immediate threat is not present. That one "cop" offered expired ID would send alarm bells off in any other situation. Course, I'm in the military which trains you to be scepticle of anything, even someone in uniform.
Advice, questions, concerns? For now, I'll show the pass then ask for ID. So far, the guy seems a little nervous that I took down his info.
Nuke