WhereIsJustice
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What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state?Involves 2 states-MT & Wash.St.
My husband, & 3 sons moved to my home state MT. 10 yrs. ago. Each son married a female from there, & had children. These gr.babys from day1 of even pregnancy, as gr.parents & mother/father in law, we have been more then active in the babys lives, as we have been always helping out the parents.
We bought everyting for the gr.kids, seeing to thier needs. Several times it is documented at the welfare office, we had the gr.kids for up to7 months at a time, as the parents felt they couldn't care for them. Also many times of the parents w/the babys living w/us.These children now ages 7,6,& 4 are tramatized from being used as pawns in now a seperation, & a life of fighting as they watch thier parents. The eldest even told me via phone recently, "Mommy hates daddy, I love daddy, Mommy doesn't like taking care of us". He says he stands between them as they fight, trying to stop them, I suggested to him to take the brother & sister & go to a rm. away from ommmy & daddy, & let them argue. maybe sing, play games, mommy & daddys argueing will only hurt him, & they will always argue anyway..assuring him I was aware & things will get better. gr.ma & gr.pa loved them & somehow would make them safe again. (he cryed before he hung up, saying he is wetting the bed again, I told him it was ok, we would work it out, it wasn't his fault.) He also bites his nails until they bleed..showing me much trauma to this child & his welfare is holding by a thread, as I only can feel it is effecting the others the same, if not worse. I can't get an official to get out there, to see really how the kids are fairing.
They have begged me to tell them how they can reach me, I wasn't then aware of something going on, a divorce/seperation.I just told them to ask thier parents, & they could call me anytime. Not knowing thier parents were too busy in another world, as the kids were suffering begging for help. While I was busy burying my daughter & caring for her 10 yr. old son she left behind here, I was being decieved & didn't see it coming.
I did contact cps in MT, they did say it would be confidential, but turned around & told the parents we made a complaint. So much for cps .The mom is well known for being unfit, negligent, seeing other men, & using drugs, the father loves the kids,w/help could be a great father, but is using drugs & is not having the best interest of the children as a priority.
Enough of the background of the problem. Except all legal workis being done by my other daughter in law, my son says, & after they agree & sign, they have it notorized. Can this hold up in court?? They are going for shared custody, but son says mother is almost ready to give him full custody..tomorrow the wind could blow a differant way, my only concern is the well being of our gr.children.
Our question:
What are our rights? How do we help our gr.children stop suffering? Can we intervien & if so, how?
Where do we go, or do to protect them? Help them? We love these gr.babys, & they love us, we are thier only gr.parents & have always been there until 1 yr. ago, when we had to relocate to Wash.because of the death of our only daughter, being mislead as were the gr.kids, that soon they would be joining us here & re-uniting as a family.Now we know they aren't coming, it has torn the gr.kids up, as well as our lives. Our gr.kids are like gold to us. To them, we are the only stability they have known & happiness.
What are the laws in MT. about gr.parents rights? Also Wash? Where do we go from here? We are our gr.babys voices now. Their crys can't go un-heard.We do fear greatly for thier well being. To a child, a day of what they are going through, is a very long time. I know they are in bad shape, thisisn't the 1st time, only 1st time I haven't been there to pick up the pieces.My daughter in law is using us being in Wash. toher benifit, thinking we can't help the kids..is this true??
Help? Also, sorry for length.
P.S. The mother will not reply back to us, about letting us talk to the gr.kids via the phone. My son says she better, but you can lead a horse to water, but can't make them drink..right? Can she stop us from talking or seeing the kids? Doesn't us being care givers for most of thier lives mean anything re-the laws? Would love some type of response, if you can help.
Thank you for listening.
My husband, & 3 sons moved to my home state MT. 10 yrs. ago. Each son married a female from there, & had children. These gr.babys from day1 of even pregnancy, as gr.parents & mother/father in law, we have been more then active in the babys lives, as we have been always helping out the parents.
We bought everyting for the gr.kids, seeing to thier needs. Several times it is documented at the welfare office, we had the gr.kids for up to7 months at a time, as the parents felt they couldn't care for them. Also many times of the parents w/the babys living w/us.These children now ages 7,6,& 4 are tramatized from being used as pawns in now a seperation, & a life of fighting as they watch thier parents. The eldest even told me via phone recently, "Mommy hates daddy, I love daddy, Mommy doesn't like taking care of us". He says he stands between them as they fight, trying to stop them, I suggested to him to take the brother & sister & go to a rm. away from ommmy & daddy, & let them argue. maybe sing, play games, mommy & daddys argueing will only hurt him, & they will always argue anyway..assuring him I was aware & things will get better. gr.ma & gr.pa loved them & somehow would make them safe again. (he cryed before he hung up, saying he is wetting the bed again, I told him it was ok, we would work it out, it wasn't his fault.) He also bites his nails until they bleed..showing me much trauma to this child & his welfare is holding by a thread, as I only can feel it is effecting the others the same, if not worse. I can't get an official to get out there, to see really how the kids are fairing.
They have begged me to tell them how they can reach me, I wasn't then aware of something going on, a divorce/seperation.I just told them to ask thier parents, & they could call me anytime. Not knowing thier parents were too busy in another world, as the kids were suffering begging for help. While I was busy burying my daughter & caring for her 10 yr. old son she left behind here, I was being decieved & didn't see it coming.
I did contact cps in MT, they did say it would be confidential, but turned around & told the parents we made a complaint. So much for cps .The mom is well known for being unfit, negligent, seeing other men, & using drugs, the father loves the kids,w/help could be a great father, but is using drugs & is not having the best interest of the children as a priority.
Enough of the background of the problem. Except all legal workis being done by my other daughter in law, my son says, & after they agree & sign, they have it notorized. Can this hold up in court?? They are going for shared custody, but son says mother is almost ready to give him full custody..tomorrow the wind could blow a differant way, my only concern is the well being of our gr.children.
Our question:
What are our rights? How do we help our gr.children stop suffering? Can we intervien & if so, how?
Where do we go, or do to protect them? Help them? We love these gr.babys, & they love us, we are thier only gr.parents & have always been there until 1 yr. ago, when we had to relocate to Wash.because of the death of our only daughter, being mislead as were the gr.kids, that soon they would be joining us here & re-uniting as a family.Now we know they aren't coming, it has torn the gr.kids up, as well as our lives. Our gr.kids are like gold to us. To them, we are the only stability they have known & happiness.
What are the laws in MT. about gr.parents rights? Also Wash? Where do we go from here? We are our gr.babys voices now. Their crys can't go un-heard.We do fear greatly for thier well being. To a child, a day of what they are going through, is a very long time. I know they are in bad shape, thisisn't the 1st time, only 1st time I haven't been there to pick up the pieces.My daughter in law is using us being in Wash. toher benifit, thinking we can't help the kids..is this true??
Help? Also, sorry for length.
P.S. The mother will not reply back to us, about letting us talk to the gr.kids via the phone. My son says she better, but you can lead a horse to water, but can't make them drink..right? Can she stop us from talking or seeing the kids? Doesn't us being care givers for most of thier lives mean anything re-the laws? Would love some type of response, if you can help.
Thank you for listening.