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siquedude

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Hello,

My name is David Nguyen. I am from Garden Grove, California. On November 19, 2004, I was driving southbound on the I-710 when I was pulled over by a California Highway Patrolman. As it turns out, someone stole my sticker from my license plate and the officer issued me a fixing ticket. The court appearance was scheduled for January 21, 2005. As luck would have it, my vehicle broke down and I was unable to bring it my car to the CHP’s local office for inspection. Without this inspection, I was unable to go to court to show them that I had fixed the problem.

A couple of months have passed until I finally get it fixed. I show up to court on March 25, 2005 to show proof that the vehicle has been inspected. The court dismissed the fixing ticket. However, the court also added another charge; Failure to Appear. The commissioner asked how I wanted to plea. I explained to the commissioner that I wasn’t able to make it to court. He retorted, “YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED US.” I asked the commissioner how much the fine was. The commissioner told me he didn’t know and I would have to ask the clerk for that information. Then the commissioner asked me again, "How do you want to plea". Feeling pressured and not completely understanding my rights, I plead guilty.

Now I’ve received several of FTA’s before. Usually, the judge dismisses it. I figured they would only fine me $25 (no more than $100) and set me on my way. This is why I plead guilty. To my dissatisfaction, I later found out that the fine was $500.00. This is unfair. The commissioner should have warned me of this hefty fine. In every traffic court that I’ve been to, I’ve always been warned of the monetary fines, even if they are miniscule. This fine however is pretty steep considering it’s only a FTA.

To make matters even worst, I’ve recently tried to call in to ask for an extension. Apparently, the officer wrote the wrong number on my ticket. The number he gave me wasn’t for the court, it was for social services. Then I figured I just go on the internet for the number to the clerks office. After making a few phone calls, I finally get a hold of the Los Angeles County Public Defender’s office and asked them if they knew the number to the clerk’s office. The public defender’s office informed me that the court clerk didn’t have a number. The only way to get a hold of them is to come in. I thought to myself, now that’s redundant! How could the commissioner suggest I call in when he knows the clerk doesn’t have a phone number?

Even if I had attempted to call before the court appearances, I would have ran into the same situation. This is unfair to the people of California. They are making people pay outrageous fines for something they have no control over.

WHY I’M SO MAD:

-- There is no way of getting in contact with the court to reschedule your appointment.
-- The commissioner should have warned all the defendants what kind of fines they were facing.

Why I believe this constitutes for a class action lawsuit:

There are other defendants that faced the same consequences as I did that same day. There may be thousands of defendants who have faced the same unfairness that I have within the Compton Courts; thousands of defendants who have tried to contact the court to have their cases rescheduled only to come to a dead end; thousands of defendants who weren’t informed of the consequences.

It is our right to know what kind of consequences we may be facing when pleading guilty. If you think I have a case, please contact me. If not, I am sorry to have wasted your time.

Regards

David
 


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Obnoxious1

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siquedude said:
Hello,

My name is David Nguyen. I am from Garden Grove, California. On November 19, 2004, I was driving southbound on the I-710 when I was pulled over by a California Highway Patrolman. As it turns out, someone stole my sticker from my license plate and the officer issued me a fixing ticket. The court appearance was scheduled for January 21, 2005. As luck would have it, my vehicle broke down and I was unable to bring it my car to the CHP’s local office for inspection. Without this inspection, I was unable to go to court to show them that I had fixed the problem.

A couple of months have passed until I finally get it fixed. I show up to court on March 25, 2005 to show proof that the vehicle has been inspected. The court dismissed the fixing ticket. However, the court also added another charge; Failure to Appear. The commissioner asked how I wanted to plea. I explained to the commissioner that I wasn’t able to make it to court. He retorted, “YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED US.” I asked the commissioner how much the fine was. The commissioner told me he didn’t know and I would have to ask the clerk for that information. Then the commissioner asked me again, "How do you want to plea". Feeling pressured and not completely understanding my rights, I plead guilty.

Now I’ve received several of FTA’s before. Usually, the judge dismisses it. I figured they would only fine me $25 (no more than $100) and set me on my way. This is why I plead guilty. To my dissatisfaction, I later found out that the fine was $500.00. This is unfair. The commissioner should have warned me of this hefty fine. In every traffic court that I’ve been to, I’ve always been warned of the monetary fines, even if they are miniscule. This fine however is pretty steep considering it’s only a FTA.

To make matters even worst, I’ve recently tried to call in to ask for an extension. Apparently, the officer wrote the wrong number on my ticket. The number he gave me wasn’t for the court, it was for social services. Then I figured I just go on the internet for the number to the clerks office. After making a few phone calls, I finally get a hold of the Los Angeles County Public Defender’s office and asked them if they knew the number to the clerk’s office. The public defender’s office informed me that the court clerk didn’t have a number. The only way to get a hold of them is to come in. I thought to myself, now that’s redundant! How could the commissioner suggest I call in when he knows the clerk doesn’t have a phone number?

Even if I had attempted to call before the court appearances, I would have ran into the same situation. This is unfair to the people of California. They are making people pay outrageous fines for something they have no control over.

WHY I’M SO MAD:

-- There is no way of getting in contact with the court to reschedule your appointment.
-- The commissioner should have warned all the defendants what kind of fines they were facing.

Why I believe this constitutes for a class action lawsuit:

There are other defendants that faced the same consequences as I did that same day. There may be thousands of defendants who have faced the same unfairness that I have within the Compton Courts; thousands of defendants who have tried to contact the court to have their cases rescheduled only to come to a dead end; thousands of defendants who weren’t informed of the consequences.

It is our right to know what kind of consequences we may be facing when pleading guilty. If you think I have a case, please contact me. If not, I am sorry to have wasted your time.

Regards

David
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https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=247774
 

MagicKristian

Junior Member
You're on the right track...

David --

As a former dputy sheriff and federal law-enforcement officer, I am more than familiar professionally and personally with such Catch-22 situations. I am seriously considering calling for a class-action suit where I live for people who are picked up, then turned out in the middle of the night (sometimes in snowstorms, as I was) with no way to get home many miles away. No matter how they slice it, this strikes me as virtual kidnapping, since you've certainly not been convicted. No question that you blew it by not getting the ticket signed off, since the CHP will actually come to your residence when requested here to do verifications. And you should have called or gone in before the FTA. And, you should have asked what the fine would be before pleading guilty. That's how they snare most of us in this dignified extortion scheme they run, and, like the cigarette companies, a few major class-action lawsuits might be the only way to snap the leash we should be jerking on them.

This BS has gone on for far too long to keep these lazy in office...

Cheers,

MK
 
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You Are Guilty

Senior Member
MagicKristian said:
David --

As a former dputy sheriff and federal law-enforcement officer, I am more than familiar professionally and personally with such Catch-22 situations. I am seriously considering calling for a class-action suit where I live for people who are picked up, then turned out in the middle of the night (sometimes in snowstorms, as I was) with no way to get home many miles away. No matter how they slice it, this strikes me as virtual kidnapping, since you've certainly not been convicted. No question that you blew it by not getting the ticket signed off, since the CHP will actually come to your residence when requested here to do verifications. And you should have called or gone in before the FTA. And, you should have asked what the fine would be before pleading guilty. That's how they snare most of us in this dignified extortion scheme they run, and, like the cigarette companies, a few major class-action lawsuits might be the only way to snap the leash we should be jerking on them.

This BS has gone on for far too long to keep these lazy in office...
MK
I know you're new so you get one free pass on this one. :)

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"Duplicate post" is there for a reason - because this is a duplicate post. Answers to the question need to be kept to one thread not only to avoid having multiple discussions on the same topic, but to not waste server space answering the same question over and over. Some people will ask the exact same question on every forum here.

In sum, responding after a "duplicate thread" notice is frowned upon, even if the other thread is locked.

Also, I suspect the operator of this site will not be particularly happy when you use her bandwidth to refer people elsewhere. You may want to word such responses carefully.
 
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