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Liza1976

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? NY

Hi... My dear old dad is up to his old habbits. He was recently caught cheating on my stepmom. Now they are looking at divorce. My question is... Is my stepmother entitled to half of my dad's stuff??? They have been married for 19 years. The home they have been living in was my father's before they were together (actually his and my mom's), and my stepmom thinks my dad owes her for half of it????? Is that right? I know he needs to get himself an attorney... but he is just wanting to get this over with, and I'm affraid he will make a huge mistake by going on her terms. She is also stating she is going to get some of his pension, guns, bla bla bla bla bla.

Any help would be greatly appriecitated.

Thank You
Liza
 


LdiJ

Senior Member
Liza1976 said:
What is the name of your state? NY

Hi... My dear old dad is up to his old habbits. He was recently caught cheating on my stepmom. Now they are looking at divorce. My question is... Is my stepmother entitled to half of my dad's stuff??? They have been married for 19 years. The home they have been living in was my father's before they were together (actually his and my mom's), and my stepmom thinks my dad owes her for half of it????? Is that right? I know he needs to get himself an attorney... but he is just wanting to get this over with, and I'm affraid he will make a huge mistake by going on her terms. She is also stating she is going to get some of his pension, guns, bla bla bla bla bla.

Any help would be greatly appriecitated.

Thank You
Liza
After 19 years of marriage, yes, she is probably entitled to pretty much half of the value of the house, his pension, and any other assets......at least half of the value of the assets that accrued during the 19 years of the marriage. He really does need an attorney.
 

Liza1976

Junior Member
thanks

I figured she was entitled for half the assests they have aquired since getting married and half of the increased value of the home but not the entire value. If he wasn't my dad I would tell her to do whatever makes her happy. He is a blue-collar, hard-labor kind of guy and tries to avoid confrontation. He is trying to do whatever gets him out the quickest, and he is going to end up loosing quite a bit if that happens. He definitely went about this completely wrong, but he still should get what is his. He built the house from scratch nearly 30 years ago (It is a very nice house). I don't have a lot of sympathy for my stepmom seeing how this is exactly what she did to my mom (with my dad's help of course). So I guess I just need some encouraging and motivating words to convince my dad that he needs to fight for what is his so he doesn't end up loosing out (even though he is a cheating you know what). :)
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Liza1976 said:
I figured she was entitled for half the assests they have aquired since getting married and half of the increased value of the home but not the entire value. If he wasn't my dad I would tell her to do whatever makes her happy. He is a blue-collar, hard-labor kind of guy and tries to avoid confrontation. He is trying to do whatever gets him out the quickest, and he is going to end up loosing quite a bit if that happens. He definitely went about this completely wrong, but he still should get what is his. He built the house from scratch nearly 30 years ago (It is a very nice house). I don't have a lot of sympathy for my stepmom seeing how this is exactly what she did to my mom (with my dad's help of course). So I guess I just need some encouraging and motivating words to convince my dad that he needs to fight for what is his so he doesn't end up loosing out (even though he is a cheating you know what). :)
If he built the house 30 years ago, and they have been married 19 years...then that does mean that the house may have had some significant equity when they married. If there are any records anywhere that show what that value was (maybe even records from his divorce from your mother) then he certainly could get that portion of the equity excluded from the property settlement.

The same would apply with his pension, and any other significant assets that he brought into the marriage.

He honestly needs an attorney. That way he doesn't have to fight the battle himself.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
NY is an equatible distribution state which would basically protect separate property, however it does entitle your stepmom to equatible value aquired during the long term marriage. NY also allows for spousal support and fault divorces which can also affect the distribution. While the situation was different for your mother, you can't do anything about that now so that is irrevelant other than lepeards don't change their spots. While he is your father and you love him, that is also irrevelant to how a judge will divide up the marital assets. Your father's infidelity will be a factor in the division of the marital assets and your emotional attachment to the house may not outweigh it's leverage in a setlement, depennding on what she asks, it may indeed be fair in the long run. You failed to mention if there are any children under the age of 21. Here are the basic divorce laws for NY:

RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS AND WHERE TO FILE: If only 1 spouse resides in New York at the time of filing the divorce, the residency requirement is 2 years. However, the requirement is reduced to 1 year if: (1) the spouses were married in New York and either spouse is still a resident; (2) they once resided in New York and either spouse is still a resident; or (3) the grounds for divorce arose in New York. In addition, there is no residency time limit requirement if both of the spouses were residents of New York at the time of filing the divorce and the grounds for divorce arose in New York. The divorce may be filed for in a county where either spouse resides. [Consolidated Laws of New York Annotated; Domestic Relations Law, Article 13, Sections 230 and 231 and New York Civil Practice Laws and Rules; Rule 503].

LEGAL GROUNDS FOR DIVORCE: No-Fault: (1) Living separate and apart for 1 year under the terms of a separation agreement which is in writing and signed and notarized [proof of compliance with the terms of the settlement agreement must be submitted when the divorce is filed. In addition, a copy of the agreement or a brief memorandum of the agreement must be filed in the office of the clerk of the county] or (2) living separate and apart for 1 year under the terms of a judicial separation decree. [Consolidated Laws of New York Annotated; Domestic Relations Law, Article 10, Section 170 and Article 13, Section 230].

General: (1) Adultery; (2) abandonment for 1 year; (3) imprisonment for 3 or more consecutive years; and (4) cruel and inhuman treatment. [Consolidated Laws of New York Annotated; Domestic Relations Law, Volume 8, Section 170].


LEGAL SEPARATION: The grounds for legal separation (separation from bed and board) in New York are: (1) adultery; (2) abandonment; (3) imprisonment for 3 or more consecutive years; (4) neglect of and failure to provide support for a wife; and (5) cruel and inhuman treatment. If only 1 spouse resides in New York at the time of filing the legal separation, the residency requirement is 2 years. However, the requirement is reduced to 1 year if: (1) the spouses were married in New York and either spouse is still a resident; (2) they once resided in New York and either spouse is still a resident; or (3) the grounds for legal separation arose in New York. In addition, there is no residency time limit requirement if both of the spouses were residents of New York at the time of filing the legal separation and the grounds for legal separation arose in New York. [Consolidated Laws of New York Annotated; Domestic Relations Law, Article 11, Sections 200, 230, and 231].

SIMPLIFIED OR SPECIAL DIVORCE PROCEDURES: A summary divorce may be granted in New York if: (1) the spouses lived apart for 1 year according to the terms of a separation decree or a separation agreement and (2) satisfactory proof is submitted to the court that the spouse seeking the divorce has substantially performed all the terms and conditions of the separation decree or separation agreement. There are sample divorce forms contained in the statute (Forms 1 and 12 for no-fault grounds), including the language necessary to state specific grounds and residency requirements. In addition, New York requires a financial disclosure to be filed in every divorce action. [Consolidated Laws of New York Annotated; Domestic Relations Law, Article 10, Section 170 and Article 13, Section 236].

MEDIATION OR COUNSELING REQUIREMENTS: There are no legal provisions in New York for divorce mediation.

PROPERTY DISTRIBUTION: New York is an "equitable distribution" state. Separate property, including property acquired before a marriage and any gifts or inheritances whenever acquired, is to remain with the spouse who owns it. Separate property also includes any increase in value or property acquired in exchange for separate property. Marital property acquired during the marriage will be equitably divided between the spouses, based on the following factors: (1) the contribution of each spouse to the acquisition of the marital property, including the contribution of each spouse as homemaker; (2) the income and value of each spouse's property at the time of the marriage and at the time of filing for divorce; (3) the probable future economic circumstances of each spouse; (4) the length of the marriage; (5) the age and health of the spouses; (6) the amount and sources of income of the spouses; (7) the probable future financial circumstances of each spouse; (8) the potential loss of inheritance or pension rights upon dissolution of the marriage; (9) whether the property award is instead of or in addition to maintenance; (10) custodial provisions for the children and the need for a custodial parent to occupy the marital home; (11) the type of marital property in question [whether it is liquid or non-liquid]; (12) the impossibility or difficulty of evaluating an interest in an asset such as a business, profession, or corporation and the desirability of keeping such an asset intact and free from interference by the other spouse; (13) the tax consequences to each party; (14) the wasteful dissipation of assets; (15) any transfer of property made in anti-cipation of divorce; (16) any equitable claim that a spouse has in marital property, including joint efforts and expenditures, and contribution and services as a spouse, parent, wage earner, and homemaker, and to the career and career potential of the other spouse; and (17) any other factor necessary to do equity and justice between the spouses. Marital fault may be considered. Financial disclosure of assets and income are mandatory. [Consolidated Laws of New York Annotated; Domestic Relations Law, Article 13, Section 236, Part B].

ALIMONY/MAINTENANCE/SPOUSAL SUPPORT: Either spouse may be awarded maintenance, without regard to marital fault, based on a consideration of the following factors: (1) the income and property of the spouses, including any marital property divided as a result of the dissolution of marriage; (2) any transfer of property made in anticipation of divorce; (3) the duration of the marriage; (4) the wasteful dissipation of marital property; (5) the contribution of each spouse to the marriage and the career of the other spouse, including services rendered in homemaking, childcare, education, and career-building of the other spouse; (6) the tax consequences to each spouse; (7) any custodial and child support responsibilities; (8) the ability of the spouse seeking support to become self-supporting and the time and training necessary; (9) any reduced lifetime earning capacity as the result of having foregone or delayed education, training, employment, or career opportunities during the marriage; (10) whether the spouse from whom maintenance is sought has sufficient property and income to provide maintenance for the other spouse; (11) the age and health of both spouses; (12) the present and future earning capacities of both spouses; and (13) any other factor the court deems just and equitable. [Consolidated Laws of New York Annotated; Domestic Relations Law, Article 13, Section 236, Part B].

SPOUSE'S NAME: At the wife's request, upon divorce the court may restore her maiden or other former name. [Consolidated Laws of New York Annotated; Domestic Relations Law, Article 13, Section 240a].

CHILD CUSTODY: Joint or sole child custody is to be determined according to the best interests of the child. Neither parent is entitled to a preference. There are no factors specified in the statute. [Consolidated Laws of New York Annotated; Domestic Relations Law, Article 13, Section 240 and New York Case Law].

CHILD SUPPORT: Health insurance coverage may be ordered to be provided. Marital misconduct of either parent is not to be considered. There are specific Child Support Guidelines in the statute and which are presumed to be correct, unless there is a showing that the amount of support would be unjust or inappropriate. The factors to be considered are: (1) the financial resources of the child and the parents; (2) the standard of living the child would have enjoyed if the marriage had not been dissolved; (3) the physical and emotional health of the child and any special needs or aptitudes of the child; (4) the financial resources, needs, and obligations of both the noncustodial and the custodial parent; (5) the tax consequences to each parent; (6) the non-monetary contributions that the parents will make towards the care and well-being of the child; (7) the educational needs of either parent; (8) whether 1 parent's income is substantially less than the other parent's; (8) the needs of other children of the non-custodial parent; (9) if the child does not receive public aid, any extraordinary expenses required for the non-custodial parent to exercise visitation rights; and (10) any other relevant factors. Security may be required for the payments. [Consolidated Laws of New York Annotated; Domestic Relations Law, Article 13, Sections 236-Part B, 240, and 243 and New York Case Law].
 

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