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Probate... WHAT IS IT?

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gastepdad

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? Oregon
What does it mean when a house is in probate. My stepdad's father died and the house was sold but he was told it was in probate and that it would be 4 months and it was going to cost them about $20,000 before the funds from the sale were released. I hate to think someone thinks they are dealing with a bunch of mountain hicks and is trying to shaft them out of their inheritance.
 


BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
gastepdad said:
What is the name of your state? Oregon
What does it mean when a house is in probate. My stepdad's father died and the house was sold but he was told it was in probate and that it would be 4 months and it was going to cost them about $20,000 before the funds from the sale were released. I hate to think someone thinks they are dealing with a bunch of mountain hicks and is trying to shaft them out of their inheritance.
O.K. how about starting with a few FACTS. Like who is this 'they' you are talking about?
 
What is probate?
Probate is a process in which the court decides who receives assets that were owned by a person who has died. Assets are anything a person owns with value, such as property, cash, etc.

When is probate needed?
Probate is not always necessary. If the deceased person owned bank accounts or property with another person, the surviving co-owner will then own this property automatically. If a person dies leaving very few assets, such as personal belongings or household goods, these items can be distributed among the person's heirs without the supervision of the court. Sometimes probate is needed to:

- Collect debts owed to the deceased person.

- Clear title to land or stocks and bonds, or large bank or savings and loan accounts that were held in the name of the deceased person only, and put the title to these assets in the names of the heirs.

- Settle a dispute between people who claim they are entitled to what the deceased person left behind.

- Resolve any disputes about the validity of the deceased person's will.

What happens during the probate process?
- A personal representative is selected. A personal representative is someone who handles the deceased person's affairs. The person is either selected by the deceased person in his or her will or by a court. If a person dies without a will, the personal representative is usually the spouse, child or close relative. If none of those people are available or willing to be the personal representative, the court may choose a bank, trust company or lawyer.

- The will is proved and delivered to the court. The deceased person's will is proved by a written statement made under oath by the witnesses to the will. At the time the will was created, there must have been two witnesses who signed the will in the presence of each other. Each witness must be able to testify that at the time the will was signed, the deceased person was of sound mind and knew what he or she was doing. If someone has the deceased person's will, he or she must deliver it within thirty days to the personal representative or to a court (this is required by Oregon law).

- An inventory of assets goes to the court. The personal representative gathers together information about the deceased person's assets and gives the inventory to the court. The personal representative may sell some assets if expenses need to be paid, and if selling the assets is not against the will.

- A notice to creditors is published in a local newspaper. This public notice gives them four months to bring any claim against the estate for debts the deceased person owes them. The personal representative also gives written notice to all known creditors and those who may be creditors.

- The heirs and people named in the will are notified of the probate proceeding.

- The personal representative collects debts that are owed to the deceased person.

- The personal representative prepares state or federal tax returns and any inheritance, gift and estate tax returns and pays the taxes.

- The court approves the inventory of assets. After approval by the court, the deceased person's assets are distributed to the people and entities (such as charities or trusts) named in the will or to the heirs of the deceased person.
What is the role of the court?

- The court makes sure that creditors are notified and their claims are settled. (Clearing such claims is an important reason for court supervision.)

- The court examines the will and the statements of the witnesses to make sure that the will is valid.

- The court makes sure that proper receipts are filed for all expenses taken from the estate during probate.

- The court makes sure that all Oregon income taxes are paid.

- The court makes sure that all assets are distributed to the people who are supposed to receive them.

What is a "small estates" proceeding?
Oregon has a "small estates" proceeding. If an estate fits in this category, the cost and time for distributing the estate is greatly reduced. A small estate proceeding applies to your estate if: 1) your total assets are $140,000 or less; 2) your real property is worth less than $90,000; and 3) your personal property is less than $50,000. Real property includes land and buildings or structures placed on land, such as houses, commercial buildings and agricultural buildings. Personal property includes all other property, such as cars, boats, clothing, stocks, bonds and personal items.

How long does probate take?
Probate can be started immediately after death. The process will take a minimum of six to nine months. If the estate includes property that must be sold, or if there are complicated tax matters, probate can last much longer. However, a small estate proceeding will only take four to six months and can be handled informally.

What are the costs involved?
A personal representative will earn a fixed percentage of the value of the total estate. Extra costs may be approved by the court for the personal representative and a lawyer if the estate is complicated. Other costs include court filing fees, legal notices published in the local newspaper and any other necessary expenses.

Does probate mean more taxes?
Probate does not affect taxes that must be paid. Federal estate tax applies only to estates that have a value greater than $1 million. Oregon taxes estates valued at $850.000 in 2004, but the exemption will rise to $1 million by 2006.

Do I need a lawyer?
Probate in Oregon is not complicated but involves a good deal of paperwork that must be filed in a timely manner. To achieve the results you want, probate should be handled with an understanding of the legal principles involved. A probate lawyer can help you avoid the many possible tax traps and other problems that could arise. Also, a lawyer can help you prepare and file the legal documents and prepare you for hearings in the court.
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
seniorjudge said:
Even if Hoppy copied and pasted, he/she copied and pasted the right things and did so in a readable manner.

**A: yes, and that is rare these days. Keep up the good work.
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
Probate! What is it good for?

Probate! huh-yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh

Probate! huh-yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again y'all

Probate! huh good God
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me?

Ohhh? Probate! I despise
Because it means destruction?
Of innocent lives

Probate means tears
to thousands of mothers eyes
When their sons go to fight
and lose their lives

I said - Probate! Huh Good God y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again

Probate! Whoa, Lord ...
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me?

Probate! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
Probate! Friend only to the undertaker
Probate! It's an enemy to all mankind
The thought of Probate blows my mind

Probate has caused unrest in the younger generation
Induction then destruction-
Who wants to die?

Ohhh? Probate Good God y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it, Say it, Say it

Probate! Uh-huh Yeah - Huh!
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me?

Probate! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
Probate! It's got one friend, that's the undertaker
Probate has shattered many a young mans dreams
Made him disabled bitter and mean
Life is much to precious to spend fighting Probates these days
Probate can't give life, it can only take it away

Probate! Huh Good God y'all
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again

Probate! Whoa, Lord ...
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me?

Probate! It ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
Probate! Friend only to the undertaker
Peace Love and Understanding;
tell me, is there no place for them today?
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord knows there's got to be a better way

Probate! Huh Good God y'all
What is it good for?
You tell me
Say it, Say it, Say it

Probate! Huh Good God y'all
What is it good for?
Stand up and shout it.
Nothing!
 

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