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I am appealing a guilty verdict from a trial by written declaration, mostly because I did not know I had to ask for traffic school option in my written declaration. But now that I have the officers declaration, I still feel I should be able to beat this.
The officers statement included:
ETS within 5 yrs, on file (form submitted also had unmarked options for 5-7 yr ETS, and 7-10 yr ETS)
Use of visual assessment AND radar to determine speed
The ETS on file in the county law library within 5 yrs is the survey for Trucks which is a different posted and justified speed limit.
The last ETS for cars, which I was driving, was 1995, next scheduled ETS 2006. The ETS Evaluation dated 2001 extending the next ETS to 10 year did not include the second page which had questions 2-5 which are addressed to determine if extension is appropriate. The differences I noticed between the car survey of 1995 and the truck survey of 2005 were: a change of verticle curve from 1200' to 1600', a change in road division (concrete barriers vs. painted lines), changes in roadway signs (removal of daylight headlight safety signs, removal of telephone ahead signs)
I believe that since I was not driving a truck or towing a trailer, the radar evidence submitted by the officer can not be used against me.
As far as the visual assessment of speed and its relation to being unsafe:
the officer was in his car, facing the same direction as my direction of travel, approx. 20' right of the edge of travel way. I was in #1 lane of 2. He was positioned approx. 1/4 mile downhill from the crest of mountain pass. From this crest there is a straightaway of about 1/3 mile.
How can an officer accurately assess speed of car when viewing from a rear view mirror? The only visual markers I can see which could be used to time travel time would be shadows of power poles which at that time of day cross the two lanes of oncoming traffic. These poles are only 250' feet apart. If he was able to get a radar reading from his "rear radar" which he "activated after his visual assessment", wouldn't there need to be a safe distance between myself and other vehicles? I don't believe he had a hand held unit which he could position himself behind to point directly at target vehicle.
I hope I have included enough information to explain this clearly.
Basically, how can an officer accurately visually assess, through a rear view mirror of a stationary vehicle located past the shoulder, the speed of a solo car 200-300' behind a group of four cars on coming on a downhill straightaway?
Thank you for your help.
I am appealing a guilty verdict from a trial by written declaration, mostly because I did not know I had to ask for traffic school option in my written declaration. But now that I have the officers declaration, I still feel I should be able to beat this.
The officers statement included:
ETS within 5 yrs, on file (form submitted also had unmarked options for 5-7 yr ETS, and 7-10 yr ETS)
Use of visual assessment AND radar to determine speed
The ETS on file in the county law library within 5 yrs is the survey for Trucks which is a different posted and justified speed limit.
The last ETS for cars, which I was driving, was 1995, next scheduled ETS 2006. The ETS Evaluation dated 2001 extending the next ETS to 10 year did not include the second page which had questions 2-5 which are addressed to determine if extension is appropriate. The differences I noticed between the car survey of 1995 and the truck survey of 2005 were: a change of verticle curve from 1200' to 1600', a change in road division (concrete barriers vs. painted lines), changes in roadway signs (removal of daylight headlight safety signs, removal of telephone ahead signs)
I believe that since I was not driving a truck or towing a trailer, the radar evidence submitted by the officer can not be used against me.
As far as the visual assessment of speed and its relation to being unsafe:
the officer was in his car, facing the same direction as my direction of travel, approx. 20' right of the edge of travel way. I was in #1 lane of 2. He was positioned approx. 1/4 mile downhill from the crest of mountain pass. From this crest there is a straightaway of about 1/3 mile.
How can an officer accurately assess speed of car when viewing from a rear view mirror? The only visual markers I can see which could be used to time travel time would be shadows of power poles which at that time of day cross the two lanes of oncoming traffic. These poles are only 250' feet apart. If he was able to get a radar reading from his "rear radar" which he "activated after his visual assessment", wouldn't there need to be a safe distance between myself and other vehicles? I don't believe he had a hand held unit which he could position himself behind to point directly at target vehicle.
I hope I have included enough information to explain this clearly.
Basically, how can an officer accurately visually assess, through a rear view mirror of a stationary vehicle located past the shoulder, the speed of a solo car 200-300' behind a group of four cars on coming on a downhill straightaway?
Thank you for your help.